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…style butt stock
Barrel: 20″ round
Saddle Ring: No
Sights: It came to me with a rear peep (aperture) sight. I believe it is a “Redfield No. 70 Micrometer Receiver Sight” with “hunter knobs”. I can ring steel at 200 yards and I never touched the sight adjustments. The front sight has a
…from a cold bore. I'll be applying some of what I learned in this thread with a similar project in the near future. I have a sister rifle to the M670 that shot so well for me 35-40 years ago. It's been a loaner/backup rifle on my brother's deer lease for last ten years or so and hasn't seen much…
…use lately. If a shooter 30-06 M70 doesn't follow me home from Cody next month I'll explore that cartridge and rifle for awhile. I have an embarrassing supply of 4350 powder on hand…
…and lots of once fired brass. All I need is a couple thousand bullets. If I use a pre-64 M70 I'll consider writing an article about it.
I had one rifle that won't shoot clean, it's been my brother's "bad weather" hunting rifle (stainless…
…shooter as long as you don't clean it.
Rifles can have difficult personalities but some are worth getting to know. Sounds like you have that 270 figured out. All things considered it turned out to be a pretty good rifle. Good job!
Mike
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…Arms Promotions has listed alot of non-cataloged Model 70s with concerns. I did not see the Model 64 listed in .35 Remington, but from the above it seems that he listed it. Bert, thank you so much for
…in Denton. The one down south had the pit on the far west side and when I went there the east side had a burger restaurant. Would have been 60's or 70's, Bob died about 30-years ago.
Mike
…U.S. Repeating Arms Company product (not Winchester).rnrnBertrnrn rnrnrn
C Pearson said: Thank you for the reply. The serial# 6030700. Also, I did not include the threaded shank which would make it a 16" barrel. rn rn
C Pearson additional information: WINCHESTER is stamped
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…it is a post-1999 production U.S. Repeating Arms Company product (not Winchester).
Bert
Thank you for the reply. The serial# 6030700. Also, I did not include the threaded shank which would make it a 16" barrel.
…Louis Luttrell said
Hi BRP-
Winchester certainly did make some 308 WIN Bull Guns, but as far as I know (unlike the Nat Match and Target Model) they were never specifically cataloged as a Special Order option. They also made a few in 300 WIN MAGNUM that weren't cataloged.
Several…
…is legit. It got kind of pricey...
https://guns.richmondauctions.com/lots/view/5-1PNL38/one-of-ten-usamu-pre-64-winchester-model-70-bolt-action-single-shot-rifles-in-308-winchester
As for other "oddball" Bull Guns, besides 308 WIN and 300 WIN MAGNUM, I think there are
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…BRP-
Winchester certainly did make some 308 WIN Bull Guns, but as far as I know (unlike the Nat Match and Target Model) they were never specifically cataloged as a Special Order option. They also made a few in 300 WIN MAGNUM that weren't cataloged.
Several…
…is legit. It got kind of pricey...
https://guns.richmondauctions.com/lots/view/5-1PNL38/one-of-ten-usamu-pre-64-winchester-model-70-bolt-action-single-shot-rifles-in-308-winchester
As for other "oddball" Bull Guns, besides 308 WIN and 300 WIN MAGNUM, I think there are
…Luttrell said
The one I'd like to see (own) would be the National Match in 308 WIN. These, along with a Target Model in 308 WIN, were specifically offered on Special Order in 1953-1954 only. Read the "fine print" on this page from the 1953 Winchester…
…than my own creation. I just think it would be cool sitting next to my Bull Guns in 30-06 and 300 H&H. I have a Post 63 Winchester Model 70 Ultra Match in .308, and it is insanely accurate. It comes cllose to being a Pre-64 Bull Gun, but no cigar.
BRP
…and scope $625 is about full retail price but they are hard to find so you did well. The correct bases and scope will cost you another $600-$700 and the value of a complete 67 Dual Sight is about $1400-$1600 if in very good condition.
In order to directly upload pictures on the WACA
…promote the sale of replacement barrels and frontends to the general “Public” to refurbish their worn rifles??
I know the 1890 rimfire line was targeted heavily with replacement barrels.
It’s certainly not uncommon to find model 64 barrels on 1894’s or model 65 barrels on 1892’s
Was there a
…promote the sale of replacement barrels and frontends to the general “Public” to refurbish their worn rifles??
I know the 1890 rimfire line was targeted heavily with replacement barrels.
It’s certainly not uncommon to find model 64 barrels on 1894’s or model 65 barrels on 1892’s
Was there a
…of the base being re-blued. What are thoughts from the gallery?
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…digging into the barrel caliber on the 32's and did find they started out with the dash between the 32 and Cal and somewhere between 148,429 and 173,870 they eliminated the dash which would line up with the caliber marks on the 1885 that Bert stated. From what I see the 32 and Cal where two separate
…Model 1886 in 45-70, manufactured in April 1888. This was found in a wall in an old house in North St Louis Missouri leaning against a sewer pipe. We had to replace
…Bob-
The one I'd like to see (own) would be the National Match in 308 WIN. These, along with a Target Model in 308 WIN, were specifically offered on Special Order in 1953-1954 only. Read the "fine print" on this page from the 1953 Winchester
… Thank you for the interesting information! In the 40 plus years of collecting Model 70s. I have seen one other National Match rifle chambered for .220 Swift. I believe if memory seves me correctly that it was a mid 1950s gun. It
…other than 30 GOV'T'06. As you know, the cataloged 30-06 National Match barrels had that special low front sight ramp and were D&T for a 0.470" tall scope block... The easiest thing for Winchester to do when filling such an order would have been to simply drop a regular barreled action …
…28-inch extra heavy barrel...
As far as the catalog summary... The way I INTERPRET it is that Winchester received orders for only (17) M70s in 220 SWIFT in 1942. How many 220 SWIFTs they manufactured, and in what styles, is something I have not found recorded (so far at least)...
…War production on the Model 70 is interesting. For example I have a .220 Swift National Match gun. The seial number is 53255. Jesse Bennett did a search for me stating that
…cite his source(s) of information, i.e. the "factory records" that Ted is referencing... Maybe Ted's seen them??? Is Roger counting only M70 Carbines made from 1936-1947 when they were cataloged (yes, Ted, they are in the 1947 catalog) or does it include the barrel clean-up Carbines…
…numbers... George didn't often cite sources either...
I have not (yet anyway) found ANY factory documentation of pre-war or transition M70 production recorded by STYLE, e.g. Carbine versus Standard rifle versus Super Grade, etc. The few pre-war documents in the McCracken Library
…records indicate 7,197 Standard carbines or 1.24% of total M70 production were manufactured by Winchester from 1937 thru the mid-1950 barrel clean up years. Chamberings…initially 22 Hornet, .250-3000 SAV, 257…
…Roberts, 270 WCF, 7M/M (Mauser),.30-06 and later 35 Remington.
Super Grade Carbines were never catalogued by Winchester. Although there are numerous…
…examples out there all SG Carbines are to a degree suspect.
That said, I own 270 SG Carbine that is one of my favorite guns
…
Here's the info on prices of the Winchester 52 Sporting rifle relative to the price of the Winchester Model 70 Standard grade, as taken from the 1938 Stoeger Shooter's Bible.
The price of the 52 Sporting Rifle with Lyman 48 sight was $88.50.
The price…
…of the basic Model 70 with 22-G rear sight was $61.25.
The Model 70 with the Lyman 48 sight was $74.25.
The Model 70 Super Grade with 22G rear sight was $84.85.
The Model 70 Super Grade with Lyman 48 sight was $97.85.
So the 52 Sporting…
…rifle was on par with the Model 70 Super Grade, where price was concerned, selling for 90% of the Model 70 Super Grade price, when equipped with comparable sights!
BRP
…m in agreement with you Steve.
It is my understanding, that these, model 52, "Sporting Rifles", cost more than a standard model 70, at that time! Hard for me to believe that, in all reality, but there's plenty of more knowledgeable people here on this forum, that can either
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…! As you know I have a few Post-64 M70's that do very well with the flat based Hornady .30 bullets so it's no surprise your .270 likes them. Even when bullet weights varied by 3-4 grains they performed well in my rifles.
I'm puzzled by the Fiocchi performance, sounds like
…got 100 rounds of Bertram brass--loaded with 25 grains 4198. Gas check 270 grain lead 100.00 per 20 for WACA members--Bill
