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                    <title>JWA on Who knows anything about McClellan saddles? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>No need to check, you are correct, they only had a single.  I forgot about the double cinch in your photos.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Steven Gabrielli on Who knows anything about McClellan saddles? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think the artillery models had the double cinch, but I’ll have to check again. No other markings that I can see that indicate this was USGI. I don’t know if it’s some type of transitional saddle to the 1913 model? Or it’s just a 1904 that somebody reworked with double cinch’s.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 19:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on WTS Cody Firearma Museum by HH</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Sold one. PM me a mailing address and the all up number. The check will be "in the mail." </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 19:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on 32-40 Brass From 38-55</title>
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<p><strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
You heat the brass just to the point where it turns orange or stars giving off an orange glow.  DO NOT quench it.  Quenching hardens the brass.  Air dry only. Watch some of these videos.<br />
annealing brass - Search<br />
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<p>I wondered about that. My knowledge of metals chemistry is very limited but I know a water quench renders metals hard and brittle, to some degree.</p>
<p>Since beginning to reload in the mid-Sixties, I've read about annealing techniques during which the heat is killed by knocking the cases over into the pan of water used to protect the heads.  I think people do it to speed up the process and make room for more cases</p>
<p>My Dad was trained to work metal as a machinist and welder. He thought the annealed portion of the cases should air cool to stay dead soft. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 19:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on 911</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I was sitting at the counter eating breakfast and watching the news before I went to work. I can never forget that day.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 18:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on 911</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>And we shouldn't. Ever. There are bitter lessons for those who will open their minds and learn. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 17:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on Who knows anything about McClellan saddles? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Are your sure that is not a 1918 Artillery Model?  That is what it looks like to me. But I am certainly no expert, I just sit on them....</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 17:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on Winchester  67  Drilled and  tapped</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>If you do decide to sell it, I am your buyer.  It would pair nicely with my matching 697.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Maverick on Research Help Needed: Factory-Engraved Winchester Model 1894 &#038; Armax Journal Vol. V</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That sure is one good looking engraved takedown Model 94. I really its condition and overall patina.</p>
<p>What caliber is it chambered in?</p>
<p>I'm guessing 38-55?</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Maverick</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 17:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Maverick on Who knows anything about McClellan saddles? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I don't much of nothing technical about old saddles. But that one sure looks like it needs a good oiling!</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Maverick</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 17:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>If I was going to make a tool, I would start with a pipe the right diameter and thickness and then mill or grind away whats not needed.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 16:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on 911</title>
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<p><strong>Henry Mero said </strong><br />
My thoughts prayers and rememberances to Anyone on the forum involved, on that very unforgettable day in American/Canadian history.<br />
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<p>Henry,</p>
<p>I will never forget that Day! </p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 16:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>David F on Winchester  67  Drilled and  tapped</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Had thought about selling the Winchester, but with the history, I'll just add it to my  small collection.</p>
<p>Fairly  sure  I knew the  scopes assembly  would be  costly.</p>
<p>Now I  Just  want  to  get it back to where I can  get it  in shooting  condition. Will be on the  look out  for the sights, might  take a while, and as I said  It Might be My Christmas Present to myself if  found.</p>
<p> Got the  Book coming from Amazon. Going to be  great  reading.</p>
<p>Had a $20 gift card from  Red Cross Blood Donation so  great timing.</p>
<p>Hoosier Dave</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 16:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Winchester M-1866 and M-1873</title>
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<p><strong>1873man said </strong><br />
Tony you started a good thread here. We all are learning something new. I looked through my parts box and found another style of bushing so I started to look through my guns and I found that the first models have the scallops and not a slot. Where you would need a special tool to remove it. The one with the slot is second model.  I don't know if there is a exact serial number that they changed  but its between 27,000 and 40,000 from a quick look through my gun safe. Tonight I will have more time to look.<br />
Bob</p>
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<p>Bob,</p>
<p>Very intriguing. IMHO! You're pictures show us a lot!</p>
<p>Now as I look, I can see the small scallops, vs. the slots! You're picture of the slotted second model bushing, shows the courser threads, as I guessed they would be a finer thread. That's the second guess I had wrong in this thread post! LOL!</p>
<p>I'm thinking maybe due to the B/P, that Winchester figured due to moisture seepage into the threads, over time, that the courser threads would be more applicable.</p>
<p>That surely would require a special tool, as a spanner wrench comes to mind as we used to use, for things as were needed. But a specially made hardened tool, wouldn't be out of the question. Something seewin would make in his shop, as he saw a need for, if he chose. Back in the day before we had the "Crow Foot" wrenches, we would take an extra, open end wrench and cut them on the band saw, and make our own version of a "Crow foot" wrench, welding an old socket we cut apart for the 1/2 inch square drive section to fit on an extension, to remove the hydraulic lines, that we're stacked up against a bank of hose fittings on the hydraulic control valves, on a said machine as we needed. I remember years ago talking to George Madis on the phone about his tractor, and telling him that story. He had that chuckle for a laugh, that I'll never forget. Crazy as we would submerse the hot parts we made in oil, to harden them, somewhat. Still have those old homemade tools and such, as we'll wind up handing them down to a couple youngsters we're schooling. </p>
<p>Looking forward to you're added information.<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 16:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Steven Gabrielli on Who knows anything about McClellan saddles? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I got my hands on what appears to be a 1904 model McClellan saddle, the tree appears to be 1904 model. But the double quarter rigging is model 1913 style for army pack mules. I’ve never seen anything like it. It’s a Smith-Worthington manufacture, oldest in the country. I can’t get a response from anybody. Some of you, boys in Texas or out west must know something.<img data-upload="1" data-width="2226" data-height="2086" title="IMG_5269.jpeg" alt="IMG_5269.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/sgabrie8544/2026/09/IMG_5269.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="2527" data-height="2254" title="IMG_5270.jpeg" alt="IMG_5270.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/sgabrie8544/2026/09/IMG_5270.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1462" data-height="2888" title="IMG_5271.jpeg" alt="IMG_5271.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/sgabrie8544/2026/09/IMG_5271.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="2311" data-height="2689" title="IMG_5272.jpeg" alt="IMG_5272.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/sgabrie8544/2026/09/IMG_5272.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3335" data-height="2509" title="IMG_5273.jpeg" alt="IMG_5273.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/sgabrie8544/2026/09/IMG_5273.jpeg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 15:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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