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                    <title>cj57 on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Steve </p>
<p>Thank you! It is the only 27" in the records, it's a shame Marlin didn't list much more then barrel and mag length and PG in their shipping ledger</p>
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                    <title>fred.lasor@gmail.com on Rip off</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>$120 Is more or less reasonable for shipping, but the $250 top-up is unconscionable.  He is more than tripling the shipping cost because he's apparently not happy with the hammer price.  That, however, is how auctions go.  You either accept the hammer price or you don't sell at auction.  I have sold farm equipment at auction and did not get as much as I hoped for, but by putting it in the auction I figured I had accepted their sale as final.  The word unscrupulous comes to mind.</p>
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                    <title>steve004 on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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<strong>cj57 said </strong><br />
I believe they were working on the model 21 before the pat date. I have a Marlin 1893, shipped late 93 with a 27” barrel and no rear sight dovetail, it has a Lyman 21 attached. The sight doesn’t have the logo stamp. Marlin either mounted the sight or sent the gun too Lyman for testing and returned to Marlin </p>
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<p>CJ -</p>
<p>VERY VERY COOL.  27 inch barrel, lettered, first year production a .38-55, and clearly no other sight had been mounted on that rifle.  It also provides a very intriguing historical clue as to how early the Lyman No. 21 made it's appearance.</p>
<p>I suppose given it's a Marlin, many other collectors around here aren't filled with envy.  I'll make up for them <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-wink.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 21:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on 1873 short rifle </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Can you post some pictures of the 28"?</p>
<p>Here are some of a 32 caliber 32".</p>
<p>Bob</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="3493" data-height="682" title="32long3.JPG" alt="32long3.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/1873man/2026/07/32long3.JPG" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3481" data-height="663" title="32long4.JPG" alt="32long4.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/1873man/2026/07/32long4.JPG" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>cj57 on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I believe they were working on the model 21 before the pat date. I have a Marlin 1893, shipped late 93 with a 27” barrel and no rear sight dovetail, it has a Lyman 21 attached. The sight doesn’t have the logo stamp. Marlin either mounted the sight or sent the gun too Lyman for testing and returned to Marlin </p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2200" title="IMG_3190.jpeg" alt="IMG_3190.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/cj57/2026/07/IMG_3190.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="2931" data-height="1170" title="IMG_3192.jpeg" alt="IMG_3192.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/cj57/2026/07/IMG_3192.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1242" data-height="1576" title="IMG_3167.jpeg" alt="IMG_3167.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/cj57/2026/07/IMG_3167.jpeg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 18:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
Despite hysterical gibberish to the contrary, we Americans still enjoy the freedoms granted us by Almighty God, among them the natural freedoms of speech, association, religion, and self-protection.<br />
As the late Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas succinctly put it, every American has the inalienable right to go to hell in his own particular way.  <br />
I recoil from the notion that the Lyman 21/38 is cute, cuddly or anything other than a blight on any Winchester or Savage rifle. <br />
BUT, I will defend to my last breath and drop of blood the right of my friend and colleague Steve to desecrate his collection with one or more of them. <br />
De gustibus non disputandum est et errare humanum est.<br />
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<p>Bill - </p>
<p>It is gratifying and heartening to have you in my corner!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 17:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on Winchester 1886 finger lever bolt &#038; bushing</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>I am looking for Winchester 1886 finger lever bolt &#038; bushing and a hammer if possible. All the sites I look for parts are out (Homestead, Old Arms Idaho) I'd appreciate any suggestions on where I can locate these. I posted this in the Swap section as well.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 15:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Robert Drummond Jr on Winchester 1886 finger lever bolt &#038; bushing</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>I am looking for Winchester 1886 finger lever bolt &#038; bushing and a hammer if possible. All the sites I look for parts are out (Homestead, Old Arms Idaho) I'd appreciate any suggestions on where I can locate these.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 15:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Gunsnfishin on 1873 short rifle </title>
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<strong>Gunsnfishin said </strong><br />
I also have a 1873- 32-20- special order 28” barrel serial 217936<br />
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<p>Cody letter gave little info - no barrel length or date serial was put on just recieved on Oct 4 1886</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 15:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Gunsnfishin on 1873 short rifle </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="4284" data-height="3213" title="IMG_8261.jpeg" alt="IMG_8261.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/gunsnfishin/2026/07/IMG_8261.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="4284" data-height="3213" title="IMG_8262.jpeg" alt="IMG_8262.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/gunsnfishin/2026/07/IMG_8262.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="4284" data-height="3213" title="IMG_8263.jpeg" alt="IMG_8263.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/gunsnfishin/2026/07/IMG_8263.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="4284" data-height="3213" title="IMG_8264.jpeg" alt="IMG_8264.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/gunsnfishin/2026/07/IMG_8264.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_8267.jpeg" alt="IMG_8267.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/gunsnfishin/2026/07/IMG_8267.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_8265.jpeg" alt="IMG_8265.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/gunsnfishin/2026/07/IMG_8265.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_8268.jpeg" alt="IMG_8268.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/gunsnfishin/2026/07/IMG_8268.jpeg" />I also have a 1873- 32-20- special order 28” barrel serial 217936</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 15:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on WTB — “Deluxe” Ornamental/ decorative grip cap screws </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I've never seen or heard of any for sale or ones that can be found on the open market. I'm not saying that you can't get them anywhere, and this is as good a place to ask or start with as far as looking for them. In my mind it's a supply and demand thing!</p>
<p>If you can't find them you might want to contact Turn-bull's Restoration Works in NY. and see if they'll make you some! Just an idea!</p>
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<p>Tony </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 15:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Despite hysterical gibberish to the contrary, we Americans still enjoy the freedoms granted us by Almighty God, among them the natural freedoms of speech, association, religion, and self-protection.</p>
<p>As the late Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas succinctly put it, every American has the inalienable right to go to hell in his own particular way.  </p>
<p>I recoil from the notion that the Lyman 21/38 is cute, cuddly or anything other than a blight on any Winchester or Savage rifle. </p>
<p>BUT, I will defend to my last breath and drop of blood the right of my friend and colleague Steve to desecrate his collection with one or more of them. </p>
<p><em>De gustibus non disputandum est et errare humanum est.</em></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 14:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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<strong>steve004 said </strong></p>
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mrcvs said</p>
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Zebulon said<br />
Ian, anything is possible but the Lyman 56 micrometer receiver sight became available in 1933 and the competing Redfield 70 in 1935. Save only for the awkward Winchester 1895,  either micrometer receiver sight was easily mounted on Winchester lever action rifles and both were superior to the Climbing Lymans.  By the early Nineteen Thirties I don't think many customers would have opted for a Lyman 21 or 38 for their Winchester Model 86, 92 or 94. <br />
The Lyman 21/38 seems peculiarly suited to the Winchester 95 just because of the rifle's architecture. <br />
As an avid user of tang peep sights, I can readily see why a 1935 buyer might choose a Lyman or Marble's tang or a Winchester 98A bolt peep, over a micrometer receiver sight for his Model 94 carbine. But why bugger up the left receiver wall for a complicated, delicate, less precise and -- let's say it - ugly contraption like the 21/38?<br />
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<p>I am not a fan of receiver sights, as I prefer the symmetry that a tang sight provides.  The lone exception to this is the Lyman 21/38 receiver sights.<br />
Bill, for a receiver sight, the Lyman 21/38 is almost cute and cuddly.<br />
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<p>The Lyman 21/38 fits much flatter to the receiver than other receiver sights. Many receiver sights are like a bulge on the side of the receiver.  Sort of like a burl on the side of tree.  <br />
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<p>I can see both sides of these conversations and opinions, as the "personal taste", or preference certainly comes into play here. IMO!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 14:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on 1873 short rifle </title>
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<p><strong>Gunsnfishin said </strong><br />
Sent for letter - anxious to get this in my hands - it has a small repair on the fore end but nothing major - at $2500 with buyers premium and shipping I’m sure I won’t be disappointed <br />
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<p>Thinking that the Cody letter will verify this attractive example, I would certainly be anxious also! We look forward to seeing the letter.</p>
<p>At $2,500.00 all tolled, it sure looks like you did well with you're purchase.  </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing.</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 14:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Lyman 21 "Climbing Lyman" Introduction Date</title>
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<p><strong>mrcvs said </strong></p>
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<p>Zebulon said<br />
Ian, anything is possible but the Lyman 56 micrometer receiver sight became available in 1933 and the competing Redfield 70 in 1935. Save only for the awkward Winchester 1895,  either micrometer receiver sight was easily mounted on Winchester lever action rifles and both were superior to the Climbing Lymans.  By the early Nineteen Thirties I don't think many customers would have opted for a Lyman 21 or 38 for their Winchester Model 86, 92 or 94. <br />
The Lyman 21/38 seems peculiarly suited to the Winchester 95 just because of the rifle's architecture. <br />
As an avid user of tang peep sights, I can readily see why a 1935 buyer might choose a Lyman or Marble's tang or a Winchester 98A bolt peep, over a micrometer receiver sight for his Model 94 carbine. But why bugger up the left receiver wall for a complicated, delicate, less precise and -- let's say it - ugly contraption like the 21/38?<br />
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<p>I am not a fan of receiver sights, as I prefer the symmetry that a tang sight provides.  The lone exception to this is the Lyman 21/38 receiver sights.<br />
Bill, for a receiver sight, the Lyman 21/38 is almost cute and cuddly.<br />
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<p>The Lyman 21/38 fits much flatter to the receiver than other receiver sights. Many receiver sights are like a bulge on the side of the receiver.  Sort of like a burl on the side of tree.  </p>
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