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Model 94 Flat Band Carbine survey
September 7, 2020
5:45 am
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I just picked this one up:

Serial # 1429181

Cal. 30 W.C.F.

Serrated Hammer

Type 2 Receiver

Barrel Date 46

September 7, 2020
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Thanks for adding it to the survey. The serial number identifies it as an early 1947 production gun.

Bert

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October 21, 2020
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Is it possible for a flat band to come from the factory with a Lyman peep sight? I might soon have another one for the survey.

October 21, 2020
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Adam said
Is it possible for a flat band to come from the factory with a Lyman peep sight? I might soon have another one for the survey.  

Very unlikely.  By the time the Flat-band was introduced (July 1946), Winchester had ceased drilling & tapping the upper tang for the a peep sight, and had not yet standardized drilling & tapping the left side of the receiver for a peep sight.  Any Flat-band with a receiver sight must be scrutinized closely for aftermarket work.

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November 12, 2020
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ser#1489888  (1948)

type 3 reciever

slotted cap

serrated hammer

don’t know barrel date

November 12, 2020
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cfox said
ser#1489888  (1948)

type 3 reciever

slotted cap

serrated hammer

don’t know barrel date  

Which caliber is it?  The serial number IDs it as a 1948 production gun.

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November 12, 2020
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Here’s  a real nice trio on Gunbroker right now.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878512007

Don

December 14, 2020
1:40 am
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Bert H. said

Which caliber is it?  The serial number IDs it as a 1948 production gun.

Bert  

30 WCF

December 15, 2020
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I have one to add:

s/n 1521865

Type 3 receiver 

Flat magazine cap

Flat front barrel band

Serrated hammer  

32WS

Don’t know barrel date

All men have fears. The brave put down their fears and go forward, sometimes to death but always to victory.

Old guns are like old cars and old men. They are meant to be taken out and used from time to time, not locked away or put on display in a museum.

December 15, 2020
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JB,

Serial number 1522211 was manufactured 8/30/1948.  Your Flat-band was probably serialized about 2-3 days earlier.

Thanks,

Bert

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December 17, 2020
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Thanks, Bert!

I have one question about the butt style. Were these carbines always shotgun butts, or were the curved carbine butts found on them as well? I may need to replace the stock and personally prefer the curved. It has a rubber recoil pad on it, so I’m not sure what it originally had. The gun is nothing more than a shooter, due to the condition of the rest of it (sadly.)

All men have fears. The brave put down their fears and go forward, sometimes to death but always to victory.

Old guns are like old cars and old men. They are meant to be taken out and used from time to time, not locked away or put on display in a museum.

December 17, 2020
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JB,

Just one type of butt plate was used on the Model 94 Flat-band Carbines. In fact that same butt plate was the only one available from 1946 through 1963. Winchester stopped using the curved style carbine butt plates in June 1937.

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February 14, 2021
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Hi, just paid for this one online. Hopefully I’ll see it in person next week. 1. Serial number 1501909 2. Caliber .32 Win special.     3. Serrated hammer    4. I don’t know what frame type means – please enlighten me.   5. Magazine tube is smooth  6. Don’t know of barrel date yet. Thanks!!!

February 14, 2021
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John hammond said
Hi, just paid for this one online. Hopefully I’ll see it in person next week. 1. Serial number 1501909 2. Caliber .32 Win special.     3. Serrated hammer    4. I don’t know what frame type means – please enlighten me.   5. Magazine tube is smooth  6. Don’t know of barrel date yet. Thanks!!!  

John,

Your Model 94 Flat-band Carbine was manufactured in May, 1948. Based on that fact, it has a Type 3 receiver frame.

Thanks for participating in the research survey,

Bert

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April 20, 2021
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I just purchased a flat band.

sn 1533180 

30WCF

serrated hammer

Not sure the barrel code I can update it when I see it.

Thanks,

Anthony

April 20, 2021
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antman said
I just purchased a flat band.

sn 1533180 

30WCF

serrated hammer

Not sure the barrel code I can update it when I see it.

Thanks,

Anthony  

Your Flat-band was manufactured in the latter part of the year 1948, and will undoubtedly have a “48” date stamped barrel.  It should also have a Type-3 receiver frame, and a smooth (non-slotted) magazine tube end cap.

Bert

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August 8, 2021
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Hi Bert – 

I have been enjoying your various posts and I am learning much about my new flat band rifle.  I picked it up this summer in Montana.

SN 1459799

.32 WS

Serrated hammer

Slotted magazine tube

Type 2 frame

I have yet to take it apart, but based on my read of the info on this site I would wager that the barrel stamp is 47

August 8, 2021
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Thanks for participating in the survey, and yes, S/N 1459799 was manufactured in the year 1947.

Bert

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August 23, 2021
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Flat band

serial: 1500581

Cal 30WCF

Serrated Hammer

Slotted tube 

1948 barrel

receiver?Cry

August 24, 2021
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Hello Sean,

The receiver is the Type 3.

Thanks for participating in the survey!
Bert

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