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john.41 said
Bert,

Picked this up at a local show last weekend.

Serial # 15195369

Caliber .30 WCF

Type 3 tang

Serrated hammer

Smooth mag cap

Not going to break it down for barrel date.

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John,

There is one too many digits in the serial number… which one does not belong?

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Mirage Flatter said
Hi Bert:

I recently received the following flat band carbine as a gift from my son.

Serial Number 1384090

Caliber 30 W.C.F.

Hammer Checkered

Frame Type 2 With No Markings or D&T Holes

Mag Tube Slotted

Barrel Date N/A   (Haven’t Looked Yet)

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Scott  

Scott,

Thank you for the information.

Your Model 94 Flat-band most likely has a “46” dated barrel, as the receiver was serialized in September of 1946.

Thanks for participating in the survey,

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Bert H. said

John,

There is one too many digits in the serial number… which one does not belong?

Bert  

Sorry Bert,

Don’t know where I got the 3 from. Serial #1519569

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john.41 said

Sorry Bert,

Don’t know where I got the 3 from. Serial #1519569  

No problem, and thank you for the updated number.

The Flat-band survey total is now 1,790.

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Found a Model 94 flatband at local gun shop.,….. , ser no. 1538174,  32 W.C.F., Serrated hammer,  Type 3,  Smooth end cap, unk barrel date

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Vince,

32 “W.C.F.” … are you sure ?

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32 “W.C.F.” … are you sure ?
Bert  

After I made the notes I left and stopped for lunch. While there the 32 bugged me so I went back and rechecked… 32 WCF. I had to look it up when I got home because I didn’t know there was a 32 WCF 94. I guess I should go buy it, but I want a certain 22 they have. It must of been special order because it was a few years since they offered 94 in 32WCF. 

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After I made the notes I left and stopped for lunch. While there the 32 bugged me so I went back and rechecked… 32 WCF. I had to look it up when I got home because I didn’t know there was a 32 WCF 94. I guess I should go buy it, but I want a certain 22 they have. It must of been special order because it was a few years since they offered 94 in 32WCF.   

Vince,

I can say this with 99.999% certainty…  Winchester never made a Model 94 chambered for the 32 W.C.F. cartridge, especially a Flat-band.  It has to be either a 30 W.C.F., or a 32 W.S.

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Sorry for the confusion, 32-40 isn’t 32wcf .

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Sorry for the confusion, 32-40 isn’t 32wcf .  

Correct!  However, if it is a Flat-band, it cannot be a 32-40.  The Flat-band Carbines were made in 30 W.C.F., 32 W.S., and 25-35 W.C.F. only.  The 32-40 was discontinued 10-years before the first Flat-band was manufactured.

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Bert,

Do you have Serial 1468757?

32 Special

type 2

serrated hammer

slotted cap

47 barrel date

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Bert,

Do you have Serial 1468757?

32 Special

type 2

serrated hammer

slotted cap

47 barrel date  

I do now (it is a new entry in the survey).

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Just picked this up. 

Ser# 1537985

30 WCF

serrated hammer

smooth end cap

type 3 receiver. 

I haven’t taken it apart yet for the barrel date. 

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Just picked this up. 

Ser# 1537985

30 WCF

serrated hammer

smooth end cap

type 3 receiver. 

I haven’t taken it apart yet for the barrel date.   

Thanks!

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Bert, just wondering about butt plates.  I hope to look at/ purchase a flat band tomorrow but I was told it has a hard rubber butt plate.  I thought they were steel during this time period.  Could be a replacement, I suppose, or the whole buttstock may be a replacement…  would a post 64 stock on a pre 64 type 3 receiver be very noticeable?

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Bert, just wondering about butt plates.  I hope to look at/ purchase a flat band tomorrow but I was told it has a hard rubber butt plate.  I thought they were steel during this time period.  Could be a replacement, I suppose, or the whole buttstock may be a replacement…  would a post 64 stock on a pre 64 type 3 receiver be very noticeable?  

Winchester used the flat checkered steel butt plates on the vast majority of the Flat-band Carbines.  There were a very small number of the early Flat-bands that had the serrated steel shotgun style butt plate.  A hard rubber (composition) butt plate could have been special ordered, but in the 2,001 specimens in my research survey, just (1) has been observed with a hard rubber butt plate, and it was on an early Flat-band with the Type 2 receiver.

I would expect a post-63 stock to fit on a pre-64 Type 3 receiver.

Please forward the serial number and other information to me after you look at/purchase it.

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Ser# 1532414// 30 WCF// Serrated Hammer// Smooth end cap// Type 3 receiver// Hard rubber butt plate.  I’d call it 90-95%   If I work a deal, I’ll let you know the barrel date.  I think I’d go to $1K…

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Ser# 1532414// 30 WCF// Serrated Hammer// Smooth end cap// Type 3 receiver// Hard rubber butt plate.  I’d call it 90-95%   If I work a deal, I’ll let you know the barrel date.  I think I’d go to $1K…  

The hard rubber plate is very unusual for a Flat-band… do you have any pictures of it?

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I didn’t take any but will if/ when we reach a deal.

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