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Model 94 Flat Band Carbine survey
April 20, 2019
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Hi Bert, I have two flat band's.

 

1)

1504097

.30 WCF

Serrated

Type 3

Slotted

48

 

2)

1524301

.32 WS

Serrated

Type 3

Slotted

48

April 21, 2019
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Jeff,

Thank you for the information.

Bert

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April 21, 2019
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Bert,

In your research, are there flat bands with saddle rings? A local dealer has one that I’ve looked at but some things didn’t seem to add up. The receiver has an expected gray/ silver patina, but the saddle ring and post are deep blue. Perhaps the ring has been replaced? For the receiver to reach that patina one would expect the rifle to have been carried and used a lot, but there is a complete lack of ring rub markings on the receiver and the deep blue ring make it appear to have been added recently. The barrel and magazine tube are also much bluer than the receiver, while the flat band is more gray/ sliver like the receiver. The mismatched wear and patina caused me to steer away from this one.

 

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Jeff

April 21, 2019
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Jeff,

Winchester discontinued the saddle ring in the early 1930s. A Flat-band Carbine with a saddle ring is an aftermarket altered gun.

Bert

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May 2, 2019
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Hi Bert,

1475852

30 WCF 

Serrated

Type 3

No slot in mag cap

 

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May 2, 2019
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AG said
Hi Bert,

1475852

30 WCF 

Serrated

Type 3

No slot in mag cap

 

AG  

Interesting... that is the earliest serial number with a non-slotted magazine tube cap.

Total Flat-bands in the survey now at 1,865.

Thanks for participating in the survey,

Bert

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May 2, 2019
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My pleasure and was a one owner gun & retains 95% original bluing. 

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May 12, 2019
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Here's my flat band purchased 3 days ago for 200$ ..... great working rifle and nice used patina on the metal, furniture in great shape.

1458498

30 WCF

Serrated

Type 2

Slotted

Barrel date:  47

June 13, 2019
10:24 pm
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Hi Bert.

 

1411682

Type 2 receiver

Checkered hammer

30 WCF

Slotted

Never had forend off for barrel date

 

Thanks Mike S

June 14, 2019
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Michael II said
Hi Bert.

 

1411682

Type 2 receiver

Checkered hammer

30 WCF

Slotted

Never had forend off for barrel date

 

Thanks Mike S  

Hello Mike,

I already had serial number 1411682 in the survey.  It was manufactured in early February, 1947.  More than likely, it has a "46" marked barrel.

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June 23, 2019
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Thank you Bert.

July 9, 2019
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July 9, 2019
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Bill,

That Flat-band was in the survey, and with a confirmed barrel date of "48".

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Bert

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October 26, 2019
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Hello Bert,

 

2 for your survey, you may have them, I just purchased them.

 

S/N 1414650

S/N 1430503

Both are the same:

Cal.-  32w.s.

Hammer - serrated 

Frame- type 2

Magazine tube type- slotted 

Barrel date- 47

 

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Josh

October 26, 2019
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Josh,

Thank you very much for the information.  I had serial number 1414650, but not the barrel date.  Serial number 1430503 was a new entry, and brings the total to 1,948 confirmed Flat-band Carbines.

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November 26, 2019
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1.  1528915

2.  30 WCF

3.  serrated

4.  F type 3

5.  smooth

6.  Not known

 

Receiver is tapped for aperture sight

November 26, 2019
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Bert-

Do you have 1503293? I suspect you do but if not I’ll get the details at another time.

 

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November 27, 2019
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TXGunNut said
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Do you have 1503293? I suspect you do but if not I’ll get the details at another time.

 

Mike  

Mike,

I do not have it in the survey ... yet.

Bert

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November 27, 2019
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barry@GeipelNet.com said
1.  1528915

2.  30 WCF

3.  serrated

4.  F type 3

5.  smooth

6.  Not known

 

Receiver is tapped for aperture sight  

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November 27, 2019
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Bert H. said

Mike,

I do not have it in the survey ... yet.

Bert  

I’ll go take a closer look. If it follows me home it’s all (or at least partly) you fault.

 

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