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Steve, the Model 1878 military trial rifle musket was an attempt to gain the elusive government contracts the Winchester always wanted. Houze's 1876 book has an appendix that covers the Model 1878 musket and the military trials. The trials ended with the Hotchkiss being accepted for limited use…
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The Cody Firearms Museum has the receiver from the trial Model 1878 musket. If you didn't know any better you would think it was a standard 1876 receiver. It's a wee bit longer. There are a couple of photos in the Houze book.
The old chestnut about the Model 1876 action being too "weak"…
… for the .45-70-405 black powder cartridge is just nonsense. Pirkle even repeated it in his book on the Models 1866, 1873 & 1876.
Interesting. I've always heard Winchester wanted a lever action repeater that would handle the .45-70 but the M1876 action would end
… the Model 1878 military trial rifle musket was an attempt to gain the elusive government contracts the Winchester always wanted. Houze's 1876 book has an appendix that covers the Model 1878 musket and the military trials. The trials ended with the Hotchkiss being accepted for limited use…
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The Cody Firearms Museum has the receiver from the trial Model 1878 musket. If you didn't know any better you would think it was a standard 1876 receiver. It's a wee bit longer. There are a couple of photos in the Houze book.
The old chestnut about the Model 1876 action being too "weak"…
… for the .45-70-405 black powder cartridge is just nonsense. Pirkle even repeated it in his book on the Models 1866, 1873 & 1876.
…Bill Hockett said
An interesting topic. The Model 1876 action was plenty strong enough for any factory cartridge that Winchester loaded for it back in its heyday. The experimental Model 1878 used the …
….45-70-405 government cartridge and was strong enough for it. The Model 1878 was a lengthened Model 1876 action used for 1878 military trials.
I don't know exactly when Winchester changed from wrought iron to steel for the Model 1876 receiver. …
…the time noting the change. We know that Winchester didn't like to waste parts so they would have used up the iron receivers.
Probably the Model 1876 changed to steel receivers in the 1882-83 time period when they went to third model style receivers.
Neither Madis or Pirkle in their books
…interesting topic. The Model 1876 action was plenty strong enough for any factory cartridge that Winchester loaded for it back in its heyday. The experimental Model 1878 used the …
….45-70-405 government cartridge and was strong enough for it. The Model 1878 was a lengthened Model 1876 action used for 1878 military trials.
I don't know exactly when Winchester changed from wrought iron to steel for the Model 1876 receiver. …
…the time noting the change. We know that Winchester didn't like to waste parts so they would have used up the iron receivers.
Probably the Model 1876 changed to steel receivers in the 1882-83 time period when they went to third model style receivers.
Neither Madis or Pirkle in their books
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… I have bought three Winchester black powder guns with blown chambers, 1873 44-40, 1886 45-70, and a 1876 50-95. Don't know how they did it but all three blew out down cracking the receiver to the magazine hole. This makes it very difficult to unscrew
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