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8:21 pm
July 18, 2017
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QuoteI am new to this site and saw a survey about flatbands. I have a 94′ 25-35 flatband serial #1442614. Hopes this helps in the survey. Thanks
Winchester nut said
I am new to this site and saw a survey about flatbands. I have a 94′ 25-35 flatband serial #1442614. Hopes this helps in the survey. Thanks
Thank you… that is a new serial number for the survey. It should have a type-2 receiver frame, and a serrated hammer. The barrel date (if you check it) should be “47”.
Bert
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9:24 pm
July 18, 2017
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I’m still learning what is a type-2 receiver frame look like or is differentiated? I would guess the barrel date is on bottom side of barrel.
9:35 pm
July 18, 2017
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Yes the barrel is 47
Winchester nut said
I’m still learning what is a type-2 receiver frame look like or is differentiated? I would guess the barrel date is on bottom side of barrel.
Based on the fact that it was manufactured in 1947, it is a type 2 receiver frame. The difference between a type 2 and a type 3 is at the transition from the upper tang to the receiver frame. The type 2 has an approximate 45-degree angle, whereas the type 3 is much sharper with nearly a 90-degree transition (see the pictures below).
Bert
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8:46 pm
July 18, 2017
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Thanks for the info. Its certainly a type-2.
To All,
Will gladly add, please don’t forget about my Reloading Tools Survey! It maybe the “redheaded stepchild” of surveys, but I’m still at it!
Believe it or not, it seems I’m still learning something new about them every other day.
A big thanks to all you gentleman that have helped with it thus far.
Sincerely,
Brady Henderson
WACA #8783 - Checkout my Reloading Tool Survey!
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-research-surveys/winchester-reloading-tool-survey/
Can someone reply with the link to the 1894 survey First Models, serial numbers 1 – 9999. I can’t seem to find it.
Appreciated,
AG
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What specifically are you looking for? I have not (yet) published any information from that survey.
Bert
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Ok Bert didn’t realize that survey wasn’t published yet. Will look forward to seeing it someday. Thanks for replying.
AG
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Bert are there any 3/4 mag 86’s in your survey. Madl & Pirkle note 169 known in their research, but that number is 15+ yrs old & wondering if any others showed up in your more recent ongoing survey.
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April 15, 2005
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AG said
Bert are there any 3/4 mag 86’s in your survey. Madl & Pirkle note 169 known in their research, but that number is 15+ yrs old & wondering if any others showed up in your 86 survey.AG
Yes there are. In the 146000 – 159999 serial range, Mark and I have documented just (4) with a ¾ length magazine, of which (2) of them are in the “missing serial number range”.
Bert
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Thanks Bert. With these low numbers for 3/4 mag 86’s, would you classify them as uncommon, rare, very rare?
AG
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8:43 pm
April 15, 2005
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AG said
Thanks Bert. With these low numbers for 3/4 mag 86’s, would you classify them as uncommon, rare, very rare?AG
I would classify them as “moderately rare” or “uncommon”.
Bert
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Thanks Bert. I personally like to acquire the rare & uncommon guns. I find them more in “my” price range(than high condition ones) & actually harder to find keeping the chase alive.
AG
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10:51 pm
November 7, 2015
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AG said
Thanks Bert. I personally like to acquire the rare & uncommon guns. I find them more in “my” price range(than high condition ones) & actually harder to find keeping the chase alive.AG
Agreed, I have a few myself. It’s rewarding to spot the variations many collectors miss…sometimes even financially.
Mike
Hello everyone. I noticed no one had any survey of 1866’s so I thought I would see what info we could all gather. As you all know records or sparse as are any special features other than engraving so I thought I would give it a try. Since the engraving is an entire issue itself I think I will stick to barrel lengths. If you want to note half mags or half rounds I will collect them as well along ith if they have fancy or deluxe wood. Please try note where the gun was observed (gunshow, auction, internet, personal collection if possible) Pics or links would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to send me pm here or email me at nanzca@yahoo.com Thanks for any input.
Casey Nanz
5:36 pm
I have a model 43 218 bee sn 28844A I would love some more info on. I believe the mag is aftermarket because it is not flush with the bottom of the rifle.
Jonathan said
I have a model 43 218 bee sn 28844A I would love some more info on. I believe the mag is aftermarket because it is not flush with the bottom of the rifle.
Hello Jonathan,
The serial number tells us that it was manufactured in July, 1950. Does your Model 43 rifle have a checkered stock with a capped pistol grip, or a smooth stock without a capped pistol grip?
In regards to the magazine, it should have a “B” marked on the top of the follower, and be marked “MODEL 43” and “218 BEE” (two lines) on the lower left side (see the picture below).
If you can, please send pictures of your rifle & magazine to me via email.
Bert – Win1885@msn.com
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