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Anyone researching the model 1873?
January 10, 2018
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I know there are a couple of fellows in the club that are doing research and collecting serial numbers for certain models. I don't know if there is anyone doing this on the model 1873 or not. A couple of weeks ago a fellow stumbled on to a model 1894 with a 36" barrel. Evidently in the model 1894 this is a rare find. Over the weekend I was looking through a couple of old magazines and on one of the pages was a picture of a model 1873 with a 36" barrel. I don't know if this feature was rare on the 73 or not, but if there is someone out there interested I'm going to type what is under the picture and maybe this will help you in your research. Here goes,,,, " A special order Model 1873 Winchester is pictured here. This rifle, serial number 458413, has an original 36- inch barrel and single set trigger. It is in 38-40 caliber". There you go, See ya.     RRM

January 10, 2018
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Mac,

I've been surveying the 73's and I have that one in there already. What magazine did you see it in?

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January 11, 2018
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Hey Bob, it was in a magazine called Gun Report.     RRM

January 11, 2018
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RRM

What issue?

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January 11, 2018
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What are you covering in your 1873 survey ? Barrel lengths and ?  I have a 28" and a 32" 

January 11, 2018
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Bob,

209202B SRC possible factory nickel.  

Manuel 

January 11, 2018
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I'm looking for all 73's to figure out what was made and how rare are the different features. 

  • I need complete serial numbers and the letter if it is present
  • What model it is (Rifle, Carbine or Musket)
  • Caliber (44, 38, 32, 22 short, 22 long or 22 extra long)
  • If its a 22, is it a takedown
  • Barrel length
  • Barrel shape
  • Is it extra heavy
  • If it has a set trigger
  • Magazine Length (full, half, etc)
  • Is it pistol grip
  • Is it checkered
  • Does it have deluxe wood
  • What is its finish (blued, case colored, silver, nickel, gold or any combination)
  • What type of butt plate
  • Does it have sling swivels
  • Is it engraved, inscribed or monogrammed
  • Or any other factory options
  • If you have a letter on it, how does it letter
  • If you believe its been modified from original what was done.

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January 11, 2018
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mjuarez0829 said
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209202B SRC possible factory nickel.  

Manuel   

Manuel,

I have that one already

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January 11, 2018
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Bob, better yet, send me your home mailing address and I'll send you the magazine. It's in very good shape. Hopefully you can add it to your research program. See ya,    RRM

January 11, 2018
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RRM,

I have most every magazine up to 2009. I've been going through them adding 73's to my survey.

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January 11, 2018
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1873man said

Manuel,

I have that one already

Bob  

Wow!

Do you have it recorded as being factory nickel plated?

January 11, 2018
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Manuel,

I don't have the letter info for that one but it is noted as plated but not the type of plating.

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January 11, 2018
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Bob,

Here are mine.  All standard OB FM CB.  Let me know if you have any further questions or needs.  Are you tracking tang stamp and barrel address styles also?

SN  477355 B  38 WCF  Blued

SN  204137 B  44 WCF  Blued

SN  330972    38 WCF  Blued

SN  76645      44 WCF  CH  Set trigger

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January 12, 2018
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Michael,

Thanks for the info, I didn't have any of those. I'm not tracking markings  since the goal is mostly rarity of features and production numbers.

RRM,

Thanks for the magazine info. I have that issue and found the picture.

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January 12, 2018
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You are more than welcome. Good luck with your research project.      RRM

January 12, 2018
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Bob,

SN 330972 has the "B" suffix marked on the lower tang.  SN 76645 has no letter after the number.  With regard to capturing the variations in the different markings I can only say it is never too late to start.  Gordon only looked at around 3500 rifles to use as a basis for his wonderful books. That is roughly only .5% of the total production.  I have found many interesting little production variations within my data on the 1892 rifles.  In addition, keeping all the photos you can get your hands on is important to prove when a rifle has been altered at some time and is being resold.

All four of my rifles have standard rifle butt plates with trap doors.

Best of luck

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January 12, 2018
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Bob,

Are you keeping track of the Atlanta Police 1873's? I have one if you want the info. 

I also have a third model deluxe that I posted on here years ago so you may have that one.

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Bob,

Are you keeping track of the Atlanta Police 1873's? I have one if you want the info. 

I also have a third model deluxe that I posted on here years ago so you may have that one.  

Gary,

Yes, I'm tracking them too if you just want to post the serial numbers I can tell you if I have it.

Michael,

There is only one tang stamp that hasn't been documented but I've been watching for those. If I was looking to write a book about what stamp was used when I would track them but my focus is  production numbers.

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January 12, 2018
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Bob,

Here you go......

Mod 1873 Third Model Deluxe OB FM CB 38 WCF 252256 1887
Mod 1873 Third Model Atlanta Police #74 OB FM CB 44 WCF 331930 1890

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January 12, 2018
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pdog72 said
Bob,

Here you go......

Mod 1873 Third Model Deluxe OB FM CB 38 WCF 252256 1887
Mod 1873 Third Model Atlanta Police #74 OB FM CB 44 WCF 331930 1890  

I have the Atlanta Police rifle. The deluxe, is that a pistol grip? is it cased?

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