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Anyone researching the model 1873?
January 16, 2018
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Sir that would be great. 

I really appreciate it. New to collecting so any info helps.

Thank you Sir.

Shane

January 17, 2018
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Shane,

Your gun is a second model which you can tell by the dust cover rail on the top of the receiver is made separate from the receiver and is held on with 2 screws. Second models are from about serial 30,000 to 100,000. 

From my survey of 16,150 guns. There are 376 guns with 30" barrels. Rifles could be ordered in any length from 14" to 36". If I check for just set triggers I find 3726. Set triggers by themselves are the most common optional feature added to the 73. Now when I check for guns with 30" barrels and set triggers I get 226. That tells me 60% of the 30" guns have a set trigger. Now when I narrow it down to just second model guns in 44 caliber with a 30" barrel and set trigger I'm down to 48 guns or about 2.23% of the total second models in my survey. Now this is a small survey when compared to the total production 720,610 guns.

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January 17, 2018
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Thank you very much Sir. 

I am very appreciative for the information.

That is so much more than I have been able to find.

Shane

January 23, 2018
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Bob,

Take a look at this link for a few more rifles and cross reference with the list sent in a PM to you.  The SN's are altered in the images but you can cross reference with the list for more complete info.     http://www.littlegun.be/ma_collection/amerique/a%20us%20winchester%201873%20cal32%20gb.htm

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January 23, 2018
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Michael,

Thanks for the list, I could only find pictures of two guns on his site.

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February 22, 2018
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hello Sir,

i am still guest for the moment, living in Belgium and just bought a (to me anyway) nice Winchester 1873

As i read you make a survey i would add mine for your list :

its a Rifle in cal 32-20 , special order octagon 26" barrel, full magazin, crescent butt stock, sn # 126557A,

Beach globe front sight and lyman No1 (1st variation pat.jan 29, 79) as per order

plain trigger,

received in warehouse on 23 june 1883,

shipped from warehouse on 26 june 1883

hope this is helpfull,

greetings from Belgium (Europe) Smile

February 22, 2018
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Thank You for the information on your 73, it has been added to the survey. Its always nice when you have a gun that the sights letter, not many of them did.

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February 25, 2018
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Hello Bob,

You might want to take a look at the Naturabuy site hosted out of France.  There are several 1873's listed and some have the SN listed or photographed.    https://www.naturabuy.fr/adsearch.php?title=winchester+1873

In cases where the last two digits have been omitted I will just insert "55" as a place holder, change the font color to red, and enter the rifle.  Since these are in France there is little risk of duplication of data by rifles seen elsewhere.   There are two muskets w/ SN's.

Have fun

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February 27, 2018
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Michael,

Thanks for the link. I would translate the pages and it was real funny reading the translations. The Barrel is translated to Cannon and one listing referenced a mouth piece, I haven't found that part on one of mine.

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February 27, 2018
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Michael,

Thanks for the link. I would translate the pages and it was real funny reading the translations. The Barrel is translated to Cannon and one listing referenced a mouth piece, I haven't found that part on one of mine.

Bob  

Bob,

Yes I agree that some of the translations are rather humorous!

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February 28, 2018
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Geez, which end was the mouth piece on?

~Gary~

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March 4, 2018
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Bob,

Here is a link to another gun shop located in France which has some Model 1873 rifles, decent photos, and serial numbers in the pics.  Good luck  http://www.galeriedemars.fr/us/27-armes-classees-5e-ou-7e

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March 4, 2018
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Thanks Michael, I'll take a look

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June 28, 2018
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Here's another 73' for the record....Used honest original rifle.

Winchester 1873

3rd model, Vintage 1887

SN: 239522 B

24" Octagon barrel, Straight Grip, Crescent Butt

32 W.C.F.

No letter yet...No checkering...Standard trigger

I added a Lyman/Winchester peep tang sight.

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June 29, 2018
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Thanks for the info, its added

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June 30, 2018
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Hi, I picked up a decent 73 Carbine At a gunshow  in Tucson ser# 2954 - Pretty much Standard in all as should be.

June 30, 2018
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Did have that one either, Thanks

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November 4, 2018
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I have an 1873 in .38-40. SN# :223269B  24” round barrel, regular ramp style semi buck horn sight, full length mag tube, straight grip stock with crescent butt plate and trap door.  I’ve had the rifle for about 20 years. It is in pretty nice condition. The bore is beautiful. The wood is nice too. Most of the metal has a brownish patina with some blue remaining on the receiver. Very tight mechanically, shoots great!

November 4, 2018
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Thanks for your gun information. 27.8% of the 73 rifles were round were there was 68.4% Octagon and only 3.8% half octagon.

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Ok so I have an 1873 38WCF 36 5/16" Half & Half barreled action that was recovered from a house fire over 20 years ago. I was told by the dealer I bought it from that the gun was also engraved, he had already sold the side plates and the lever as parts previously unfortunately. The barrel and reciever show traces of what looks to be copper and maybe a few flecks of gold?? It has been heavily cleaned and will need to be completely restored inside and out. Without the lever there obviously is no serial number, however I believe this to be a "one of" as it is clearly a Special Order Gun. The factory records should bear out what it truly is and I'm quite sure a select few have been waiting for this extremely RARE gun to be discovered and brought to light.

I can provide photo's but I truly believe this needs to be seen and inspected closely to ascertain it's true identity. I am obviously interested in obtaining it's identity first but it will be offered for sale at some point, perhaps after the restoration??

Maybe it's a big nothing but I don't believe so...

Seeking sound knowledge and friendly advice, thank you in advance!

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