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January 1, 2016
1:42 am

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steff said

Hi Brad,

here the datas from my M1895s:

SN: 24564, Standard rifle, 38-72 WCF, 26" octagon barrel, standard sights, rifle buttplate, factory letter:

Date in: 3-7-1900
Type: Rifle
Caliber: 38/72
Date shipped: 8-24-1900
Order: 68985

SN: 82048, Standard rifle, 35 WCF, 24" round barrel, standard sights, rifle buttplate

SN: 409276, TD rifle, 405 WCF, 26" round barrel, standard sights, shotgun steel buttplate, left side of receiver marked "Manton & Co. Calcutta", top of barrel marked "RUTLAM" and "20"

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Steff

Hi Steff, and a Happy New Year to you.

I find your Winchester Model 1895 Very Intriguing,

Did you pick it up here in the USA ?

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January 1, 2016
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Is that correct that your 405 TD Rifle has a 26" barrel?

Thanks and Happy New Year!

Brad

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January 1, 2016
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Brad, you are right. The barrel has 24". Sorry.

Hokie, i buy all my Winchesters here in Germany. There are a lot of collectors with partially very fine guns. Last week i see a std. 1895 in 405 in absolut NEW condition. Unfortunately I don't have the money to buy it.

Steff

January 2, 2016
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Thanks again Steff. Glad to hear you are finding these nice Winchesters over there.

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January 2, 2016
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http://www.gunauction.com/buy/9850397/

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January 3, 2016
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Thanks Michael, looks like I got that one in the survey already. Have you looked through these also? Some Winchesters in a few of the auctions.

http://www.cottoneauctions.com/prices-realized/start

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January 14, 2016
2:13 am

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Brad here are two more:

Serial no. 49236 Cal. .30-US, 26" round bbl. crescent butt- standard sights

Serial no.417762, Cal. .30-06 , 24" round bbl., shotgun butt- Lyman 21 receiver sight.

Dan

January 14, 2016
3:03 am

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Thanks Dan, much appreciated.

Does 49236 have a 26" barrel, not the standard 28" for 30 US? Just wanted to verify.

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January 14, 2016
2:04 pm

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Brad, I just measured it Its actually 24"

Also #417762 is a take down.

January 15, 2016
3:15 am

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Thanks for that extra information Dan. Those sound like interesting 1895s. A 24" 30 US/30-40 rifle is not so common.

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January 16, 2016
1:28 pm

sgtsemo

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Brad, here are a couple shots of the 1905 30US.

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January 16, 2016
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Hi Dan

My first impression is that the profile of the barrel looks like it may have been shortened. Also, your tape shows the total length being closer to 24 1/2-25" to the bolt face. Is the front sight on your rifle also dovetailed right into the barrel? I think the 30 US/30 Army/30-40 barrels usually have a lug with a pinned blade--I might be wrong and maybe someone else will comment with their observations on that for sure. *I just sent a link for this to Rob. He says it might be possible.

Here are a couple with shorter than standard barrels that have pinned blades.

The description says these two letter in their present configuration:

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-1260-fine-special-order-winchester-1895-deluxe-lever-action-rifle-46964/

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-1305-fine-and-rare-winchester-1895-short-sporting-rifle-46830/

This one is in the letterable range:

http://merzantiques.com/photo/95-deluxe-rifle1

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January 16, 2016
10:36 pm

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I just realized the serial number of your rifle is in the range for which there are records. Ever have it searched or lettered?

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January 17, 2016
3:01 am

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Brad, yes a while back.

Winchester Model 1895- serial Number 49236

SER# applied on March 09,1905

Type- rifle

Caliber 30

Received in warehouse on May 05, 1905

Shipped August 29, 1905, Order # 23415

Forgive my poor photography skills but It was exactly 24"

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January 17, 2016
3:13 am

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Yes the Front sight is dovetailed

January 19, 2016
12:36 pm

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Hi Dan

Rob sent this image of a Model 1885 Single Shot barrel in 405 WCF and the following:

"The best way to tell if the dovetail is factory is to drift out the sight and look to see if the slot was made by a milling machine with a rotary cut marks versus draw-filed marks—see example of a milled cut attached."

That being said, I looked through my survey data and Rob's database of 1895s and could not find another 30 US rifle with a dovetailed front barrel sight.

Brad

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