Hello,
I came across this thread and see you are still interested in more data. Here are my 95’s:
1. SN: 51444 – Letters with Caliber .30, fancy wood, checkered stocks, shotgun butt rubber, oil finish and rimless. 24″ barrel in cal. 30 U.S. Model 1903 (30-03). I think the rear sight is a 21A and the elevator has the “Pat. Feb. 5, 1891” stamped on it. Not sure of front sight but appears factory. Received in warehouse on Jan. 6th, 1906, shipped on Jan. 7th, 1906. Returned for repair on Dec. 4th, 1906 and again on Nov. 25th, 1907.
2. SN: 80401 – Takedown, 35 WCF, Lyman receiver sight, barrel blank with a circled “R” stamped on it, sling swivels, 24″ barrel, crescent steel butt, mfg. 1915.
3. SN: 414214 – Saddle ring carbine, 30-06, 22″ barrel, I think it has the 50C carbine sight, original cleaning rod in butt, carbine butt, mfg. 1925.
4. SN: 35486 My beater or shooter. Caliber .30 U.S., 22″ tapered barrel, Redfield receiver sight, pinned front sight, butt cut and non-Winchester butt plate added. Mfg.1902
I have the first three listed on Guns International if you want to see pictures and confirm my information. To the best of my limited knowledge, the information is correct.
Hope this helps,
Thanks
#50427, 28″ round barrel, .303, crescent buttplate, front sight is a pined brass blade that has the back side serrated. Came out of MO.
#415204, 28″ round barrel in 30 ARMY, crescent buttplate, tang has been drilled and tapped for a peep sight. Came out of MI.
#76227, 20″ round barrel in .35WCF, take down, matted receiver, checkered steel shotgun buttplate, #21 receiver sight, #6 folding rear sight, #4 hunting front sight. Was owned for several generations by a family in AZ. Last shot in the 60’s.
I picked this one up a couple of years ago.
Ser.#401484
Saddle ring carbine
.30US (.30-40 Krag)
Barrel 22″ (bore is excellent)
Standard rear sight, front blade is a Sheard replacement
Carbine buttplate
Receiver drilled and tapped for Lyman 21
Most finish gone from receiver, buttplate, barrel band, lever and rear sight. Barrel has virtually all its finish remaining. Butt stock and forend are somewhat weathered but no cracks. Swivel stud on butt stock is 3 5/8″ from toe. Barrel band has a 1/8″ hole (off center) on bottom (Bubba?).
I bought this as a shooter.
Charlie
Brad, for your survey
1895 Winchester, SN 93657
30 gov’t 06
{Left side of 24″ round barrel) NICKEL STEEL BARREL ESPECIALLY FOR SMOKELESS POWDER
deluxe checkered (style H) butt stock & forestock
Marble sheard front sight
Lyman 16 folding rear sight
Lyman 21 receiver sight (WR code on back)
matted receiver
06 stamped on barrel bottom at receiver
95 stamped on butt stock end
checkered steel shotgun butt plate
stock bored for cleaning rod
Any other info needed let me know. Also any info you can furnish would be appreciated. Don
Thanks Don
I looked at your sight photos in your other post. As was said, the leaf sight on the barrel looks like it’s later. I think the correct sight for that time period is still the Lyman No.6. The receiver sight could be the original one, but it’s really hard to tell from the photos in my opinion. There’s glare and also what appears to be a shadow right where a person needs a clear view. Like Clarence mentioned, there’s wear at the front/bottom of the receiver and magazine that’s similar. Have you had the rifle for very long? I see rifles out there that had been fitted with the Lyman rear sight, but all that’s left now is the extra hole and good blue where the sight was. If someone put that one on later to replace the one that was missing, that’s not too bad at all. That’s another possibility for some rifles.
I was just reading some parts of The American Rifle and Mister Rifleman again the other night. You’ve got the Townsend Whelen preferred checkered steel SB.
morsece said
I picked this one up a couple of years ago.Ser.#401484
Saddle ring carbine
.30US (.30-40 Krag)
Barrel 22″ (bore is excellent)
Standard rear sight, front blade is a Sheard replacement
Carbine buttplate
Receiver drilled and tapped for Lyman 21
Most finish gone from receiver, buttplate, barrel band, lever and rear sight. Barrel has virtually all its finish remaining. Butt stock and forend are somewhat weathered but no cracks. Swivel stud on butt stock is 3 5/8″ from toe. Barrel band has a 1/8″ hole (off center) on bottom (Bubba?).
I bought this as a shooter.
Charlie
Thank you Charlie. Much appreciated!
Brad, some additional photos of my 1895 SN 93657. I previously misstated the caliber marked on barrel. It is 30 gov’t 1906. I got this at a gun show and couldn’t see the stock has been repaired. Due to wavy grain running diagonally across the tang area (wrist?) it had broke and was glued, pegged, etc. I am sure it will evoke a lot of negative comments but I like it. I am particularly interested in your comment about the butt plate. Also I feel that the Lyman 21 is original to the gun (gut feeling) and should I remove Lyman 16 and put filler in dovetail?
Don
Hi Don
Like you mentioned, the wood has obviously been worked on/repaired. And like you mentioned, you like it, so that’s good. You can always change out the folding Lyman sight on the barrel with a Lyman 6 that matches or a blank if that works. You should see wear from a standard rear sight and elevator on the barrel if it had one before. Nearly all Lyman rear sights before s/n 60000-70000 have the two dot inlays on the elevation scale, so yours is appropriate in that regard for your s/n. I don’t know enough about the actual “LYMAN” stamping on the sight itself to date it. If you were wondering if it always had one or not, the blue underneath the sight should be pretty good, as was advised in a reply by Bob to your other post. The matted receiver ring is normal for 30-06. Whelen advised ordering a ’95 with a shotgun butt stock and the checked steel butt plate, not the “hard rubber” plate or the normal rifle butt stock and plate, that’s why I mentioned that.
I should also say that The American Rifle came out after your rifle was made, but Whelen may have written the same advice earlier somewhere else. He’s also probably not the only guy that preferred that setup. It should feel better on the shoulder for most shooters too.
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