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Model 61 Research Survey
February 1, 2017
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Thanks for the reply guys.  I will get to look at it again this Friday.  Now I have an idea of what it's worth.

Al

April 1, 2017
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1) 270253

2) Round Barrel

3) Barrel is stamped .22 S. L. or L.R.

4) The tang is not drilled and tapped

5) There is no W underneath the serial #

7) The butt plate is black plastic

8) Yes the top is grooved for a scope mount

April 2, 2017
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COgunbroker said
1) 270253

2) Round Barrel

3) Barrel is stamped .22 S. L. or L.R.

4) The tang is not drilled and tapped

5) There is no W underneath the serial #

7) The butt plate is black plastic

8) Yes the top is grooved for a scope mount  

Thanks!  I appreciate the help!

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 4, 2017
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Model 61 , # 299287 , 22mag RF , round barrel , plastic butt plate , grooved top , no A stamp

April 4, 2017
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Randy Isackson said
Model 61 , # 299287 , 22mag RF , round barrel , plastic butt plate , grooved top , no A stamp  

Thanks Randy.  You are in the survey.  1960 DOM.

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 7, 2017
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One more for you Michael,

Model 61

Serial # 24491

Chambered 22 S/L/LR

Tang D&T for peep

Checkered steel butt plate

Smooth receiver top

11 groove forearm

No letter under serial #

RB

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April 7, 2017
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Thanks Erin!   I appreciate the help.  DOM 1937.

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 11, 2017
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Michael;

  win model 61 s,l,lr; grooved reciever; sn-263,988.Maybe you could answer a couple questions for me on this rifle. It reads with a long dash than 22 LR,then long dash.Then below the 22 LR it reads; L. OR S. I never saw this before. Is it factory done? Can you explain why they did it?

thanks, doug

p.s. I bought the model 61 with slings off you; it is a tack driver. thanks. 

April 11, 2017
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douglas faery said
Michael;

  win model 61 s,l,lr; grooved reciever; sn-263,988.Maybe you could answer a couple questions for me on this rifle. It reads with a long dash than 22 LR,then long dash.Then below the 22 LR it reads; L. OR S. I never saw this before. Is it factory done? Can you explain why they did it?

thanks, doug

p.s. I bought the model 61 with slings off you; it is a tack driver. thanks.   

Hello Doug,

I am glad that you are pleased with the rifle you purchased from me.  I had shot it a bit and it is as you say.  Deadly accurate!  

With regard to the barrel markings on SN 263988, Winchester changed the style and position of the chamber designation multiple times on the Model 61 rifles.   Please post a photo of the markings on the barrel.  I also have not seen that style.  

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 11, 2017
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Sorry,don't know how to post pictures on here.If you text me your phone number,I think I can send them that way.Someone told me that there were leftover long rifle barrels and they just stamped that underneath to sell the guns as s.l.and lr. Don't know if that is fact or not.

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Send the photos to either 2bitrifles@gmail.com or text to 713-249-0224.

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 11, 2017
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picture sent

April 13, 2017
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Good morning Doug,

Here is the photo you sent me.  I must say I have never seen a caliber stamp like that after looking at more than 4500 Model 61 rifles.  It is obvious that the second line was added later and the bluing was altered as a result.

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 14, 2017
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2. Round

3. 22 S.L or 22 L.R.

4. Yes drilled and tapped with 2 screws

5. No W

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7. Checkered steel

8. No

April 14, 2017
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twobit said
Good morning Doug,

Here is the photo you sent me.  I must say I have never seen a caliber stamp like that after looking at more than 4500 Model 61 rifles.  It is obvious that the second line was added later and the bluing was altered as a result.

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Michael  

It obvious, someone got tired of trying to answer questions of why it couldn't take S or L if it could take LR. 😄

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April 14, 2017
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Robert (cakey303) said
1. 30567

2. Round

3. 22 S.L or 22 L.R.

4. Yes drilled and tapped with 2 screws

5. No W

6. 

7. Checkered steel

8. No  

Hello Robert,

Thanks for the information.  Can you tell me if the muzzle face is cut perfectly flat or is it slightly rounded or crowned?

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 14, 2017
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2. Round

3. .22SL or LR.

4. No

5. No

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7. Plastic

8. Yes, grooved

April 16, 2017
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Robert (cakey303) said
1. 281186

2. Round

3. .22SL or LR.

4. No

5. No

6.

7. Plastic

8. Yes, grooved  

Thank you Robert!

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

August 22, 2017
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I always get suspicious regarding "original" boxed guns (too many fakes out there--"Selling Dad's" ruined that market), but this one looks good to me.

Thoughts?

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/winchester-model-61-22-shot-w8045/

Don

August 22, 2017
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I am already suspicious.  Right off the bat that is not the brochure that came with that 61, it is the early Winchester version and should be the Olin marked version for that late gun.  Like this one -

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