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Model 61 Research Survey
August 22, 2017
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Don, 

If this is an original box it should have the manufactures symbol on the bottom of the box.

i have several and are marked Atlantic container in a circular logo. It should have an identifying stamp A 1017  H 34.

In my opinion the hang tag is wrong. Starting in the mid fifties winchester started using specific tags as to which model and symbol number. In this case the symbol number would be 6116.

The end label should indicate 6116 in the upper right hand corner.

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August 22, 2017
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Thanks guys.  This validates my uninterest in collecting boxed guns.  All the fakery out there spoiled any honest/legit ones remaining for me.  It's much more pleasing for me to look at a rack full of nice original Winchesters rather than cardboard anyway.

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August 22, 2017
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Hello,

I know Mike Clark who owns Collector's Firearms and sent him an email (I am on vacation in Michigan and away from my home in Houston) that expressed a few reservations about this rifle.  The DOM is 1962 but by Schwing's work the .22 LR Shot only was last offered during 1959.  My last noted .22 LR Shot Only is at SN 290226 during early 1960.  I have cataloged 1145 rifles after 290226 and this is the only other Shot Only rifle.

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

September 1, 2017
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I have 2 61's one I just bought a 61 today: #39756, no groove or letter below serial, round barrel, steel butt, barrel marked s.l.lr, short forearm, tang drilled X 2.  Second 61 is #328346, grooved top, letter A below serial, round barrel, marked 22 win mag rf, plastic butt, tang not drilled.  Hope this helps. 

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I have 2 61's one I just bought a 61 today: #39756, no groove or letter below serial, round barrel, steel butt, barrel marked s.l.lr, short forearm, tang drilled X 2.  Second 61 is #328346, grooved top, letter A below serial, round barrel, marked 22 win mag rf, plastic butt, tang not drilled.  Hope this helps.   

Hello,

Thanks for the info on the two rifles.  SN 39756 is DOM of 1938.  SN 328346 is DOM of 1962.  Both are configured correctly for their SN range.

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

October 2, 2017
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Model 61 Marked 22 Win Mag RF, serial348091, letter A below serial. Tang not drilled. plastic butt plate. Was bought new by my Father mid 1960s. Traded to me 1972.

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Ed Elster said
Model 61 Marked 22 Win Mag RF, serial348091, letter A below serial. Tang not drilled. plastic butt plate. Was bought new by my Father mid 1960s. Traded to me 1972.  

Thanks so much for the information on your rifle Ed.  There were only about an additional 1300 more Model 61's manufactured after yours.  Late 1963 DOM.

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October 6, 2017
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Hello Michael,

 

Picked up another 61 yesterday,

Serial# is---221178

Chambered S-L-LR

Round barrel

Checkered steel butt plate

Grooved receiver

Tang is NOT D&T

No W below serial #

It's a shooter too........ Quickly mounted a Burris Timberline 4.5-14AO on it. Warm fall day here so sighted it in. Cluster fly's were out and kept landing on the target box I sighted in on. Shot several Fly's at 30 yards. Cool

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October 9, 2017
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Thanks so much for the new data point Erin.  The rifle was manufactured during 1955.

Michael

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February 19, 2018
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Michael

I picked up another late 61 today in Denver. Also, I cant recall if I gave you the info on a 61 Magnum I bought last summer, so here's both of them. Let me know if you need more info. 

Mod 61 Slide 22 S,L,LR 262861 1959 95%, Grooved
Mod 61 Slide Magnum 22 Win Mag 303675 1960 95%

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Michael

I picked up another late 61 today in Denver. Also, I cant recall if I gave you the info on a 61 Magnum I bought last summer, so here's both of them. Let me know if you need more info. 

Mod 61 Slide 22 S,L,LR 262861 1959 95%, Grooved
Mod 61 Slide Magnum 22 Win Mag 303675 1960 95%  

Good morning Gary,

I had the magnum but the standard gun is new to the survey.  Does it have a checkered steel or plastic butt plate?

Michael

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February 19, 2018
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Plastic Butt.........

~Gary~

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March 2, 2018
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Rose,

Is it a standard rifle chambered for short, long, and long rifle?

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 9, 2018
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Michael

Model 61 for your survey 

22 S L LR

serial #271934 

grooved receiver 

not DT 

checkered steel butt plate 

I know from reading previous posts this serial number range should have a composite butt plate. This gun is in 95+ condition and I am very confident it hasn’t been touched. There is #68 stamped on butt of stock as well as the plate.  I do not know what this stands for maybe you can educate me on it

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Model 61 for your survey 

22 S L LR

serial #271934 

grooved receiver 

not DT 

checkered steel butt plate 

I know from reading previous posts this serial number range should have a composite butt plate. This gun is in 95+ condition and I am very confident it hasn’t been touched. There is #68 stamped on butt of stock as well as the plate.  I do not know what this stands for maybe you can educate me on it

Thanks Mike  

Hello Mike,

I saw that gun listed in a Cabela's previously.  The change from checkered steel to plastic butt plates began in late 1958 but there is the occasional rifle in later 1959 that still have the steel ones.  I am sure it is original.

Thanks

Michael

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April 19, 2018
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Michael,

Info for your Model 61 survey on rifle I acquired today:

Serial# 138151

Round barrel

-MODEL 61-22 S,L, OR L.R-

Upper tang not drilled

W not present

Checkered steel butt plate

No groove on top of receiver

The rifle appears to be in unfired or very lightly used condition with no discernable blemishes.  Any thoughts on this one?

Mac

April 19, 2018
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Michael,

Info for your Model 61 survey on rifle I acquired today:

Serial# 138151

Round barrel

-MODEL 61-22 S,L, OR L.R-

Upper tang not drilled

W not present

Checkered steel butt plate

No groove on top of receiver

The rifle appears to be in unfired or very lightly used condition with no discernable blemishes.  Any thoughts on this one?

Mac  

Good morning Big Mac,

Your rifle was one of the first dozen which were manufactured during 1950.  The last serialized receiver in 1949 is 138140.  Based on your description it is correct for the serial number range.  Thanks so much for the information.

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 23, 2018
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254480 (no W), round barrel, 22 S, L or LR, no tang screws, grooved receiver, checkered steel butt plate.

 

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TXGunNut said
254480 (no W), round barrel, 22 S, L or LR, no tang screws, grooved receiver, checkered steel butt plate.

 

Mike  

thanks Mike.   That is another new one for the survey.

Michael

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