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steff said

serial number 48997

round barrel

chamber designation 22 S – L – or LR

upper tang with tang sight mounting holes

no W stamped

buttplat checkered steel

british proof marks

muzzle threaded

 

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Thanks Steff.  

Does the rifle look refinished at all and thus the “W” stamp on the bottom possible buffed off?  All of the rifles which I have seen in this SN range have been stamped.  Thanks so much for the help

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Hello Michael,

you are right. The W is very light but it is there.

Do you think the threaded muzzle is factory original? 

Can it be a WWII lend lease gun?

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Cant  remember if I added or not..

round bbl

281679

s,l,lr

plastic bp

no holes on tang

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steff said

Hello Michael,

you are right. The W is very light but it is there.

Do you think the threaded muzzle is factory original? 

Can it be a WWII lend lease gun?

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Thanks for checking Steff.  I have never heard of the Model 61 being used as a “military” firearm.  The front sight is not original and I suspect that the muzzle threading is also non factory original.

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Cant  remember if I added or not..

round bbl

281679

s,l,lr

plastic bp

no holes on tang

44

Yes, I already have this rifle in the survey.  Thanks.

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I have two Model 61’s to add to your survey:

SN 339289; Round BBL; “Model 61  22 S.L. OR LR.”; No drilled tang; No W below SN; Plastic butt plate; Receiver is grooved.

 

SN 50740; Round BBL; 22 S. L. OR LR.; Drilled and tapped with two screws; W stamped below SN; Steel butt plate; Receiver is not grooved.  I have the original box for this rifle.

I love Winchester 22s and have a very nice 62, my 62A given to me in 1955 or 56 when I was around 14 years old, and five very nice Model 63’s, one with the original box.  I am pleased to add these two Model 61s to your survey.

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Wilfrid Nelson said

I have two Model 61’s to add to your survey:

SN 339289; Round BBL; “Model 61  22 S.L. OR LR.”; No drilled tang; No W below SN; Plastic butt plate; Receiver is grooved.

 

SN 50740; Round BBL; 22 S. L. OR LR.; Drilled and tapped with two screws; W stamped below SN; Steel butt plate; Receiver is not grooved.  I have the original box for this rifle.

I love Winchester 22s and have a very nice 62, my 62A given to me in 1955 or 56 when I was around 14 years old, and five very nice Model 63’s, one with the original box.  I am pleased to add these two Model 61s to your survey.

Bill Nelson

Good morning Bill,

Thanks so much for including your 2 Model 61 rifles in the survey.  SN 50740 was manufactured during 1940.  SN 339289 was manufactured during 1962.

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I previously gave you information on my three Model 61s.  I recently acquired two more and the data follows:

A.  SN# 274375

Barrel: Round, .22 S L or LR; No tang drills; No W; Black Plastic butt plate, and receiver is grooved.

B.  SN# 305614

Barrel: round; 22 WIN MAG. R.F.; No tang drills; A under SN; Black Plastic butt plate, and receiver is grooved.

Mike; I hope this adds to your survey.  I also just recently acquired a Model 62, like new in its original box and have five Model 63s, two of which are in their original boxes.  Bill Nelson

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Michael:  woops, I made a mistake.  I only have four Model 61s and you have the data on all four.  Bill N

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Wilfrid Nelson said

I previously gave you information on my three Model 61s.  I recently acquired two more and the data follows:

A.  SN# 274375

Barrel: Round, .22 S L or LR; No tang drills; No W; Black Plastic butt plate, and receiver is grooved.

B.  SN# 305614

Barrel: round; 22 WIN MAG. R.F.; No tang drills; A under SN; Black Plastic butt plate, and receiver is grooved.

Mike; I hope this adds to your survey.  I also just recently acquired a Model 62, like new in its original box and have five Model 63s, two of which are in their original boxes.  Bill Nelson

Thanks for the info.  Both of these rifles were sold at the RIA auction September.  Sounds like you were busy there!  Congrats.

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2 from Cabelas in Sidney Ne.

1  # 122821 22 S.L. or LR.  no letters  metal butt plate  no screw holes  round barrel

2 # 336952  22 S.L.or LR.    no letters   plastic butt plate  no screw holes  round barrel

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2 from Cabelas in Sidney Ne.

1  # 122821 22 S.L. or LR.  no letters  metal butt plate  no screw holes  round barrel

2 # 336952  22 S.L.or LR.    no letters   plastic butt plate  no screw holes  round barrel

Thank you cranky2!  Those are both new additions to the survey.  I am getting close to 3300 rifles in the effort now.  This could not be done without the help and assistance of other so it is greatly appreciated.

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Another from Cabelas in sidney Ne.

 

Serial #296785  no letter  22 Win Mag RF Grooved receiver Round barrel  Not tapped  Plastic butt plate

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Another from Cabelas in sidney Ne.

 

Serial #296785  no letter  22 Win Mag RF Grooved receiver Round barrel  Not tapped  Plastic butt plate

Thanks so much.  We now know you hang out at Cabela’s a lot!!  Which  I appreciate.

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Michael,

Can you either post the results of your survey or email it?  Are you noticing any trends as to rarity of particular configurations, etc?

Thanks,

Al

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Yes Michael I spend to much time there.Laugh Just ask the wife. I work part time in Sidney so I’m in there once a week. I don’t remember the last time they had a 61 now there are 3.

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Michael,

Can you either post the results of your survey or email it?  Are you noticing any trends as to rarity of particular configurations, etc?

Thanks,

Al

Hello Al,

 

i have not not broken down the data in that manner yet.  But I am getting close to 4000 rifles surveyed and will do it then

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Yes Michael I spend to much time there.Laugh Just ask the wife. I work part time in Sidney so I’m in there once a week. I don’t remember the last time they had a 61 now there are 3.

You can’t be guilty of going too often if it that easy!!

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Hello there…. I have the following Model 61

100451

round barrel

22 S.L. or LR

Upper tang not drilled

No W below serial number

Butt plate is checkered with Winchester logo.  Can’t tell if it is steel or plastic

Smooth receiver

I’m pretty sure it is from the 1940’s.  It is in good shape and still shoots great.  Killed a few squirrels this weekend.  Bluing is heavily faded.

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