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Model 61 Research Survey
April 18, 2015
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Randy Isackson said

Model 61 smooth bore/ shot shell only. Number 7106. How scarce are shot shell only ? Round barrel

Hello Randy,

I saw thid rifle in the auction listing.  The Model 61 was not offered with a smooth bore in this serial number range.  My guess is the barrel is not original to the gun.

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 18, 2015
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I will check to see if number is correct. I looked at it in a crowd today , looked nice shape from 3 ft away. Interesting that it could have a barrel change. Wood looked in nice shape

April 18, 2015
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Randy,

Look at the serial number closely.  It should be centered on the bottom of the receiver not off to one side as if the first or last digit may be removed.  The upper tang should be D&T with two small screws.  Changing a barrel is easy.

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 18, 2015
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Thanks going to look

April 18, 2015
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This is what I seen on # 7106 number is correct and in right spot. W on top of barrel and receiver. 2 small screws toward front top of receiver.  Something done on top tang almost looked like rivots and then ground a little ? Barrel address on the side of barrel in the middle. Steel butt plate , round barrel. 

The other gun was 298523, rubber butt plate round barrel, grooves on top no screws and barrel address at back end of barrel on the side. Both with good wood and metal condition. THANKS For YOUR HELP

April 18, 2015
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The only screws should be on the tang.  Any other screws on the receiver top are not correct.  I would not bid on the rifle based on your description 

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 19, 2015
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This gun sold for 3200.00 at auction went to Iowa . Owner said he had owned for 30 years and had bought it from a older gentleman that he said he could not imagine had done any change. I did not bid just watched, took your advice !

April 20, 2015
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 Randy wrote:

 Owner said he had owned for 30 years and had bought it from a older gentleman that he said he could not imagine had done any change.

I also bet that the "older gentleman" lived on some ocean front property in Nebraska.  Based on your description the rifle just was not correct.  I would have loved to have seen some photos of it.

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 25, 2015
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S# 274349

round barrel

no screws

no W

SL & LR

grooved receiver

plastic butt plate

April 26, 2015
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rich194 said

S# 274349

round barrel

no screws

no W

SL & LR

grooved receiver

plastic butt plate

Thanks Rich for the information on your rifle.  It is a 1959 vintage rifles and about 250 rifles later than one I own.

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 27, 2015
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 ser # 1840

oct barrel

tang drilled tapped

no w

metal butt

22 long rifle

April 27, 2015
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don said

 ser # 1840

oct barrel

tang drilled tapped

no w

metal butt

22 long rifle

Thanks Don.  

I saw SN 1841 for sale quite a while ago on Guns America.  It had a Winchester A5 scope and a folding peep sight on it.

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

April 30, 2015
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1)115028

2) Round

3) 22 S. L. or L. R.

4) not drilled

5) no W

6) Metal Butt plate checkered

7) not matted (has been reblued)

8) no groove

April 30, 2015
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FLT said

1)115028

2) Round

3) 22 S. L. or L. R.

4) not drilled

5) no W

6) Metal Butt plate checkered

7) not matted (has been reblued)

8) no groove

Hello FLT

The rifle was serialized in the last few days of 1948.  Most likely it was fully assembled during January of 1949.  Thanks for the info.

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

June 4, 2015
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serial number 51281, 24" round barrel, blued, slide action marked .22RF Lyman tang sight.

 

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June 5, 2015
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Good morning Grant,

Thanks for the information on your rifle.  I will gladly enter it into the survey.  I need to clarify the Chamber designation.  You state it is marked .22 RF.  Is it actually .22 WRF?  Is there a "W" stamped just a bit below the serial numbers on the receiver?  

Thanks so much for your effort,

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

July 9, 2015
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hello Michael ,happy to present my new 61 find in flea market in France this week

 

serial number 5286

 

round barrel

chamber designation 22 S - L - or LR

upper tang  drilled and tapped with the two small screws

no W stamped any wear

buttplat checkered steel

and the receiver top is grooved

this winchester is in really good condition and find a new home for a long time !

August 7, 2015
1:34 pm
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Serial number 74495, octagon barrel, .22LR only

Currently on gunbroker if you want pictures:

item: 499698990

August 7, 2015
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Got it.  Thanks!  The auction number is 499706218.  Pretty low condition gun.

Michael

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Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

August 8, 2015
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serial number 48997

round barrel

chamber designation 22 S - L - or LR

upper tang with tang sight mounting holes

no W stamped

buttplat checkered steel

british proof marks

muzzle threaded

 

Steff

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