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…the case even if upgraded wood was not requested.  

From my own experience I have seen this on 1873's and 1876's.  Was it common as well on other models that got case-hardening as an "extra" feature?  I know the early 1886's had case-hardening on the receivers as standard, so one would presume

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December 5, 2022 4:31 pm
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…found this from Bert in another Gumwood thread from 2017.

“Winchester began using it on the Model 1892 and Model 1894 Carbines at least as early as 1907 (my survey of the Model 1894 begins in May 1907, at serial number 354000). From 1908 – 1921, gumwood was…

…the predominant stock material for the Model 94 SRCs. Gumwood continued to be used on the Model 94 Carbines until at least serial number 982459 (July 1925).”

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December 5, 2022 4:29 pm
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…condition garner a comparable, or even a higher price, vs a walnut, since it would add scarcity into the mix?

  

Vince, when I was looking for a model 1894 DCP carbine, I found a few for sale within a short period of time. One had walnut wood and the other two had gumwood. After researching these…

…specific models I found almost all had gumwood stocks, which fell into the correct period and Ser range. 

One of the gumwoods I was looking at(both 1915) had

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December 5, 2022 11:21 am
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…documented thus far, I have the barrel dates on three of them... one is "35" and the other two are "36".  I suspect that all of the legit 45-70 Model 71 barrels will have the same dates on them.

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December 4, 2022 11:50 pm
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… 

Could the chamber be reamed to handle modern shells?  

Yes, but it may also need the ejection port opened up. 

The early production 20-ga Model 1912s were chambered for a 2-1/2 shell, and when Winchester standardized the 2-3/4" 20-ga, many of the early guns had their chambers reamed for

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December 4, 2022 8:56 pm
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The NFA of 1934 sealed the fate for the Winchester Model 94 Trapper production. Trapper production was relatively robust up to 1930, and then it slowed down during the early years of The Great Depression.…

… In my ongoing survey of the Model 1894/94, I have documented (415) of them that were manufactured in the 354000 - 1343183 serial number range, and of that number just (8) of them

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December 4, 2022 7:49 pm
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…Omer,

Based on your brief description of the gun, there really is no need to have it appraised.  A standard Field grade Model 12 in 16-gauge with a cut down (shortened) butt stock will not have much (if any) interest or value in the collector market. 

Further, and

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December 4, 2022 7:28 pm
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Omer Causey
December 4, 2022 7:03 pm
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…articles about them in the WACA magazine .  Here's a fun article that includes the author getting a wild pig with his M71:

Winter/Spring 1998

Model 71, The King of The Hunting Fields” by Dr. Frank Schroeder

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December 4, 2022 6:42 pm
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…can be found in the summer 2021 WACA magazine.  Here's an excerpt.  I think this tells us what we need to know:

 

As stated earlier, the Model 71 was introduced in the brand

new 348W.C.F. cartridge, with serial number 1 shown in the

Polishing Room serialization records as being…

…that were made in 33 W.C.F. cartridge, and (3) in

45-70 cartridge. Both of these cartridges were holdovers

from the recently discontinued Model 1886. Please note the

information contained in the fourth paragraph in the right

hand column above.

In addition to the small number of special…

…ordered 33 W.C.F. and 45-70 Model 71 rifles, there were two

experimental rifles made in “308 W.C.F.” Fellow WACA

member and author Dan Shuey #4841 researched and wrote

an…

…excellent article that appeared in the Winter 2018 issue

of The Winchester Collector titled The Other Model 71

Caliber. In it, he discusses Winchester toying with the idea

of manufacturing a lighter recoiling variant of the Model

71, and creating a new…

…cartridge, the 308 W.C.F. (essentially

a necked down 348 W.C.F. case). In my continued research

of the Model 71, I located a second experimental rifle also

chambered for the 308 caliber (s/n 36640). Serial number

16572 is the rifle pictured in the

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December 4, 2022 3:29 pm
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…just thinking these are calibers from the discontinued 1886 and might have been a first reintroduction back in the day to the new model, but I haven’t owned any or researched them before. 

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December 4, 2022 1:29 pm
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…had called soon as the on line catalog was available.  Answer was the model 71 in .45-70 was erroneously listed for the current auction.  Supposed to be in a future auction.  Tim

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December 4, 2022 1:23 am
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… you have to remember the Model 1894 was developed for the new 30 WCF smokeless cartridge.  I have an antique 38-55 I have shot many times with Factory Winchester ammo with no

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December 3, 2022 10:22 pm
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…inherited a model 1912 12 gauge serial 54412 in good shape not great. No rust some scratches on stock. Ribbed pump handle with a straight stock not pistol grip. I’m

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Jim C
December 3, 2022 7:23 pm
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…be true of some Winchester sights but not others.  We will not find a consistent pattern.

  

So by application of that principle, the first Model 52 should have been the 52A, the model now designated 52A should be the 52B, & so on, down to the final 52, not the E model, but the F.

  

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December 3, 2022 6:43 pm
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…may be true of some Winchester sights but not others.  We will not find a consistent pattern.

  

So by application of that principle, the first Model 52 should have been the 52A, the model now designated 52A should be the 52B, & so on, down to the final 52, not the E model, but the F.

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December 3, 2022 4:42 pm
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…Ben,

I can positively guarantee you that Model 1894 S/N 121400 was manufactured in August of the year 1901. All of the "other" tables you refer to are copies of the erroneous information…

…telling you, contact the Cody Firearms Musuem (CFM) records office and obtain a factory letter.

In regard to the ammo question, as long as your Model 1894 is in safe shooting condition, it will safely handle any factory loaded 35-55 ammo to include all smokeless powder ammo, especially Cowboy ammo

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December 3, 2022 3:42 am
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…Clarence,

I agree, I can logically follow the letter suffix on the Winchester rifle model numbers since the suffixes usually meant that the change in the design meant that some components would no longer be interchangeable with earlier models.  I don't think Winchester ever thought that sights would normally be user serviceable when it came to replacing individual components (although…

…was the same sight family but with a different height or aperture/notch.  

Another example (which you will read about in the upcoming book on the Model 75) is the Winchester 84A rear sight.  This sight was specifically developed solely for the Model 75 Target and it was designated with the "A"…

…the prototype stage.  In fact, an example of the prototype 84A was submitted to American Rifleman "Dope Bag" for review prior to the release of the Model 75.  AR found it deficient in several areas so Winchester revised the sight, both mechanically and visually but it retained the "84A" nomenclature

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December 3, 2022 2:31 am
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…Logically, I get your point but I am not sure it is a mystery.  The Winchester sights did not follow the rifle model suffix naming protocol for significant changes (i.e, incompatible component interchangeability) to the design.  

I have over 400 original…

…in the future it could become a series of sights based on the same design (and in many cases this did, in fact, happen.)  When the beloved Model 52 was introduced it was offered with a 93A front sight blade and the 82A rear, there was only ONE version of each of those sights at the time. JWA

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December 3, 2022 1:53 am
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So far in this thread I haven’t seen discussion for pre-1900 (year built) rifles. The rifle I’d like to ask about is a .38-55 Model 1894 with S/N 1214XX.

The winchestercollector.org “Dates” resource/page says that this rifle was built in 1901, but all other S/N tables for the Model 94 found elsewhere say it was built in 1897.

I found some ammunition (245 grain cowboy ammo in .38-55, smokeless) and I’m wondering if I can

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December 3, 2022 1:30 am
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…of the suffix. 

Hi Clarence,

Logically, I get your point but I am not sure it is a mystery.  The Winchester sights did not follow the rifle model suffix naming protocol for significant changes (i.e, incompatible component interchangeability) to the design.  

I have over 400 original…

…in the future it could become a series of sights based on the same design (and in many cases this did, in fact, happen.)  When the beloved Model 52 was introduced it was offered with a 93A front sight blade and the 82A rear, there was only ONE version of each of those sights at the time.  It

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December 3, 2022 12:53 am
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December 3, 2022 12:33 am
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…Jim,

On the early production Model 1897s, the ejector spring was mounted to the inside of the receiver wall (as it is on your gun).  At approximately S/N 84000, the ejector spring

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December 2, 2022 8:05 pm
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…number you mention was manufactured in 1936 versus 1939.  The "Transitional" Carbine production ended in late May of 1937.  The use of Gumwood for Model 94 stocks ended in the mid to late 1920s.  If your Carbine actually has Gumwood, the odds are very high that it is not original to the gun.  I

…does not mention the 20 inch barrel nor the Lyman 21.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-model-1894-pre-64/-sale-pending-winchester-1894-short-rifle-in-caliber-38-55.cfm?gun_id=102142992

Don

  

I'm on the fence with this

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December 2, 2022 5:59 pm
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…does not mention the 20 inch barrel nor the Lyman 21.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-model-1894-pre-64/-sale-pending-winchester-1894-short-rifle-in-caliber-38-55.cfm?gun_id=102142992

Don

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December 2, 2022 4:38 pm
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…hope to sell this Saturday. Need value from you experts. Model 1892 25-20 with refinished wood, rebarreled Model 65, shortened magazine. I have been offered $650. Should I have taken it?

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December 2, 2022 2:10 am
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…CFM.  When I began the research (many years ago) to create it, I recorded the last serial number applied in each month & year for all of the models that the CFM has records for.  Due to the size of the database required to cover all of the different models, the online version of my DOM tables…

…only lists the last serial number for each year a specific model was manufactured.

Bert

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