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…  Look at the length of the receiver ahead of the sideplate, plus how far the buttstock extends towards the hammer.  Its an 1876 rifle.  Tim

…and others,  Will try this, working with one eye only.  Excuse typos!  My 1876, sn: 5332, is listed on its letter as Rifle, Octagon, Plain, into warehouse Aug 10, 1878.  It is an open top, first model.

  Now, model 1876, sn…

…Jan 21, 1878.  Note the year and the months involved.  

  Pirkle reiterated the serial numbers generally considered the range for First Model 1876's from the data cited in the "Winchester Book" by George Madis.  If I recall correctly though, the August 1878 date was thought to be the

…and am trying to pin down what model rifle he's holding. My expertise is not advanced enough to pin in down, but my guess is that it's an 1873, 1876, or 1886. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks!  

The Model 1873 was offered with a standard 24 inch barrel while the 1876 came with a 28…

…inch.  If we assume that the rifle is not a special order then based on the overall length I would agree that it is a Model 1876.  Not certain of the caliber though!!

Michael

…like an 1876 to me.  Cool photo!

Don

…and am trying to pin down what model rifle he's holding. My expertise is not advanced enough to pin in down, but my guess is that it's an 1873, 1876, or 1886. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks!

…and others,  The absence of "lids" extends into the early 5000 serial number range on the 1876's.  Right now I don't have access to my records, but after surgery for cataracts, I will get into my room and get serial numbers, and dates.  I…

… Their dates are within the month of change that I seem to remember as being considered the transition period.  I have seen several other "open top" 1876's also numbered in the 5000's.  I note you said "at least" in your statement.  I had these rifles on display some years back both at Cody and at

…with a lid or if it was returned later to have it added.

Paging Rick Bachman to a white courtesy phone.

http://www.thewinchestergrove.com/1876/14xx.htm

…to ledger records the first 5 1876 rifles to have lids added were guns 1682-1686. This is also mentioned in "The First Winchester". I have gun 1685 and would like to find one or all

…m far from being an expert, but these look pretty good to me: https://homesteadparts.com/shop/saddle-ring-and-stud-winchester-1876-1886-1894-1895-p-805.html?cPath=87_95

Frank

…appeal to you or are you just doing your best to enjoy all of them?

Mike  

Thanks! In order of favorites I like the 1894, 1892, and 1876. For now I only own 1894’s, in 30 WCF and 32 Win Special, but I’m now hot after a 38-55. I lean towards the rifle length, but own both rifles and

… The 50 caliber guns have always been hard to find and expensive, driven by availability and demand. The same situation exists with 50 caliber Model 1876's. When I downsized I was smart enough to keep one!

Steve - when I started collecting Winchester levers the internet did not exist. At

… The 50 caliber guns have always been hard to find and expensive, driven by availability and demand. The same situation exists with 50 caliber Model 1876's. When I downsized I was smart enough to keep one!

Burt - that's a beautiful '76 for sure.  I do want to comment that the Model 86 .50

… The 50 caliber guns have always been hard to find and expensive, driven by availability and demand. The same situation exists with 50 caliber Model 1876's. When I downsized I was smart enough to keep one!

…access this rifle right now, but I seem to recall it had a crescent buttolate.  I’d be surprised if it had a rubber buttolate.  

  1873s and 1876s came standard with a blued receiver. The 1886 came standard with a case colored receiver until about s/n 122,000 when blue was standard. The

…own a piece of American history, Cowboy and Indian, gun that won the West, 44-40, and Hollywood movies. When you pickup a 1873 made before June of 1876 it could have been at the Little Big Horn, some were. The 32-20 came out in 1882 for the 73 and Colt started using it in the single action in 1887

…bl – 14

Half mag – 5

Musket, 30″ bl – 16

Carbine, 20″ bl – 11

22 cal rifle with 24” bl – 24 shorts and 19 longs

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Model 1876 Rifle, 28″ bl – 11

Musket 32″ bl – 12

Carbine 22″ bl – 8

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Model 1886 Rifle, 26″ bl, (45-70/40-65/38-56) - 9

Half mag -

…own a piece of American history, Cowboy and Indian, gun that won the West, 44-40, and Hollywood movies. When you pickup a 1873 made before June of 1876 it could have been at the Little Big Horn, some were. The 32-20 came out in 1882 for the 73 and Colt started using it in the single action in 1887

…own a piece of American history, Cowboy and Indian, gun that won the West, 44-40, and Hollywood movies. When you pickup a 1873 made before June of 1876 it could have been at the Little Big Horn, some were. The 32-20 came out in 1882 for the 73 and Colt started using it in the single action in 1887

…                     Carbine, 20" bbl,     12 shots   (nothing reflected ref custom mag length)

                                            Model 1876  Rifle, 28" bbl,       12 shots

                                                               Musket 32" bbl,   13 shots

…and "guns-of-1883-yellowstone-prequel" is good for gun sales of old guns. The Tom Selleck movies, Quigley and Crossfir.e pushed Sharps and 1876 Winchesters values at the time. 1883 might spark new interest. T/R

…Shot Rifle" and no reference was made to, "Model 1885."  Additionally, nearly every Winchester lever rifle from that era (e.g. Models 1873, 1876, 1886, 1894, 1895) were marked on the tangs with the numerical (i.e. year of origin) model number.  The the tangs on the Single Shot rifles

…to help, please send me a PM and I will give you one or several (your choice) serial numbers to search.  The Winchesters used were Models 1873, 1876 and 1886.

…site indicates that #187699 was manufacture in 1917?

…apologies to the board - I'm sure this subject has been beaten to death over the years.

I'm looking at a vintage 1919 Model 12 (SN 1876XX) that I've only seen a few photos of and I'm wondering if the ventilated rib is one that was put on by Winchester, or was a later Simmons add-on

…Shot Rifle" and no reference was made to, "Model 1885."  Additionally, nearly every Winchester lever rifle from that era (e.g. Models 1873, 1876, 1886, 1894, 1895) were marked on the tangs with the numerical (i.e. year of origin) model number.  The the tangs on the Single Shot rifles

…from customers?  I suppose it's possible he didn't write the letter but he did sign it.

I have wanted to add an 1880's catalog to my 1873 and 1876 rifle collection for years. It's even sweeter that this one belonged to a Winchester executive. 

Thank you all for a making this a most enjoyable

…://firstwesternauction.com/

According to the flyer this auction has a lettered "One of One Thousand" 1873

Several other 1873s

1876 and 1886s

Model 12 28 gauge deluxe 

Model 1894 deluxe 

Just North of Kansas City on January 1 if anyone is ion the vicinity

…m looking to buy back 1876 Express Rifle SN 60953.  It's a standard round barrel Express rifle in 80% condition previously in my collection.  If it comes on the market I

…to check with the manual to get pressures. Stick with Winchester original velocity for your gun when manufactured. 45-75 and 50-95 smokeless in a 1876 is tricky, not a lot of thickness to the metal around the chamber.

 I reached out to the members a year ago and got some real good loads, saved me

…That's a 3rd model receiver, maybe made after 1882, how does that get back to 1876 to be carried at the Little Big Horn. The butt stock could be a First model that came off a gun made before June 1876. Many Indians use their guns