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…number 2000081. Any help greatly appreciated. 

matthew  

You have at least one too many digits in the serial number.  Production of the Model 97 ended at S/N 1024701 on September 30, 1957.

Bert

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…Ken,

For the most part, we at the WACA focus on the Pre-1964 production Winchester firearms. That stated, the Model 131 was a short-lived and low production rifle. It was introduced in 1967 and was last listed in the 1972 catalog. The listed production was

…yours (52040 & 52561), but I did not note anything peculiar about the serial number marking on either one of them.  The earliest Take Down Model 1897 I have found thus far is serial number 48866 & 48870 and both were marked on the receiver and take down extension.

The hard rubber butt

…marked with the choke constriction, but it is a Full choke.  Winchester stated in their catalogs that unless specifically requested, all standard Model 1897 shotguns would have a 30-inch Full choke barrel.  I checked my old Model 1897 (micrometer) and it measured .710.

The markings on the

…husband’s grandfather and I’d like to get some info on the gun and if it is valuable so I can pass it on to my 4-H Super Shooter grandson.

Model 12, 12g

Serial # 301781 Trap

30″ barrel, Winchester Proof Steel

2 3/4″ Full

Stock is ~ 13″ w/ black diamond, beautiful marled wood

I can’t

…recently acquired an early 1897, SN 53031, which as I understand it puts it at around just 1,700 SN above the first takedowns for this model.  After lettering it, I was able to confirm that this is a true early takedown Brush gun, and from appearances and condition, I believe that…

…or anything like that as the markings for the barrel and SN on the receiver are still quite crisp.  Is this common or seen on early 1897 takedown models or is this possibly an oversight/new practice at the time?  The SN was applied on June 16, 1898.

I'm also curious how many earlier takedown

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…have two model 1906's. One is in collectible condition, the other is a beater that I keep in my garage for pest control.  The beater has a bore that looks like

…husband’s grandfather and I’d like to get some info on the gun and if it is valuable so I can pass it on to my 4-H Super Shooter grandson.

Model 12, 12g

Serial # 301781 Trap

30″ barrel, Winchester Proof Steel

2 3/4″ Full

Stock is ~ 13″ w/ black diamond, beautiful marled wood

I can’t

…can I find how many model 92 takedown were manufactured in the M92 DLX OCT TD CH 24" S, 357

…

In my research on the Model 1892's I have seen another carbine marked on the left receiver side.  It was manufactured during 1917.  Please send me some images and the serial

…H. said

Hello Micah,

Your Model 12 was manufactured in November 1963. The odds are extremely high that the stocks are an aftermarket "upgrade".

Bert

Thank you! I’d love to know this gun’s story. I love the

…can't figure out what I am doing wrong!  I just paid the big money for a Winchester Model 21 from Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company.  The day it arrived it was absolutely beautiful!  I took it to my gun club and it drew quite the…

…and fired again.  Both barrels shot again at the same time.  I selected the other barrel and the same thing happened.  I fired 10 times and the Model 21 fired both barrels at the same time 8 of the 10 times.

I reached out to Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company. They graciously paid to…

…to wonder if there is some user error on my part?  Am I assembling the gun improperly?  I could not find any examples of anyone else having a model 21 double fire like that.

Please help a new Model 21 owner!

…Micah,

Your Model 12 was manufactured in November 1963. The odds are extremely high that the stocks are an aftermarket "upgrade".

Bert

…! I have a rather “unique” Model 12 to my understanding and was hoping to get some help!

I have a model 12 with the serial number of 1966687. From my research, it is a standard model 12. However, it has a tiger maple Monte Carlo stock without a cheek…

… squared off diamond inside it.

It is not stamped “Trap” or has the two arrows facing each other, so it didn’t leave the factory as a trap model at least. Is it possible this was in Winchester’s custom shop? 

I would include pictures but am new and not sure how to do that on this forum.

…in 40-70 Sharpes Straight and another in 40-70 Ballard... and no reloading tool or bullet mold for either!

Bert

If its a Winchester Model 1894 Reloading Tool, its for the 40-70 W.C.F.

The 1875 & 1882 Tools were in the other 40-70 calibers.

Bill,

What condition are they

…- I think you make a good point.  However there are many exceptions to this.  For example, there's a large percentage of records lost for models such as the Model 1892, 1894 and 1895 Winchesters.  Also, while the M1886 has a larger percentage of records available, there are research efforts

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…  I would assume "ball" means "solid projectile".  Old Army (and Marine) term.  Example is the model 1911 service pistol.  It shot "ball ammo".  Ditto when talking the service rifles, etc.  If I guess, it is a hold over from when military arms DID

…have the opportunity to purchase a Model 54 in 30 WCF.  What is the value of these rifles?  It is about an 80% condition rifle.

Thanks for the input!

Manuel

… box with all cartridges being nearly identical in condition, and with the same head stamp. Winchester made a different style shot cartridge for the Model 1876 Repeater that has a cardboard bullet shaped shot carrier.

Winchester manufactured 254 high-wall rifles in 50-95 W.C.F.  The upper rifle

…of the serial number, or underneath the serial number? If the "A" is on the end of the serial number, that indicates that it is an early production Model 1906 manufactured in April 1908. The back half of the rifle with serial number 385229 was manufactured in June 1913.

Bert

…clarence said

Rick,  What is it you're so concerned about protecting?  Doesn't sound like it's a Model 75.

You asked. 

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…  What is it you're so concerned about protecting?  Doesn't sound like it's a Model 75.

…it is a half-magazine takedown (and the letter likely will match the configuration), it doesn't mean parts weren't replaced.  However, I have a model 53 where the receiver finish and takedown ring finish look identical to this one - and I believe the rifle is original.

…recently acquired a Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring rifle w/ 20" bbl (dom 1916) in 44 WCF.  It is marked US over TVA and a 3 digit number on the left buttstock.  Letters are 3/4”…

…and the number is 3/8”.

I have seen a Winchester Model 12 shotgun and an M1 Carbine that were stamped TVA Property, and confirmed as used by TVA.  I have not seen anything regarding any Winchester rifles

…it is a piece meal rifle, The barrel has been repalced with a Springfield Arms Company barrel. 

What I am really interested in is determing what models make up the other major items of this rifle  The receiver has S/N 107663A on its underside and the Guard (trigger assy housing) has S/N 385229 on

….  I believe that interest in these will increase because compared to most pre-64's are still somewhat affordable for new in box condition models, and are attractive to younger collectors who are just getting into the hobby.

Al

…seems to be real fascination for a low serial number gun at the auctions. In September of 2019, at a Rock Island auction, a Model 1894 in serial #8 sold for $57,500 (before the juice). Also, a Model 1886, serial #8 sold for $54,625 (before the juice). Both of these…

…in my opinion, the guns were original and correct. You don't often see single digit serial number Winchesters. I was fortunate enough to own a Model 55 in deluxe configuration, serial #5, for about 30 years and often wish I had kept it. But, I was the lucky caretaker for a long time and I know