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…of the above is to illustrate the breadth of Ron's talents. Tomorrow, when I drive over to pick up the Mark V, I'm bringing with me the Winchester Model 50 I picked up recently. It looks like it got light use and I'd call it a 92-95 percent shotgun. But I want Ron to strip it, clean and lube the
… to be hand-written rather than the rumored mimeographed label!
In case it’s not readily discernible, the label reads:
50 Ctgs
44 — 66 Model
C. F.
April 16 / 91
Bob
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…said
There were a group of late model 52B's that were hand stamped either with "U.S. PROP." on the RH side of the barrel, "U.S. PROPERTY" above the serial number on the receiver or
…page, it was manufactured in 1915. It is in like-new condition and is a fantastic shooter, though that barrel gets hot!
Serial Number: 776305
Caliber: 30 WCF
Magazine Tube: ⅔ length (holds 5 rounds of 30-30)
Stock: I assume this is the flat…
…directly. You can view some here: Winchester 1894 Photos
-Sixvolt
Unfortunately, none of what follows is good (or positive) news about your Model 1894.
What you have is a "Frankenchester"... a Winchester assembled from the parts of many other donor guns.
Specifically, the receiver…
…
The butt stock & checkered steel butt plate are from a post-1945 production but pre-1947 Carbine.
The serrated hammer is from a post-1946 Model 94.
Winchester did not drill & tap any Model 1894 receiver frames for a Redfield, Lyman, or Williams receiver mounted peep sight.
The…
…Redfield sight on your Model 1894 is a post-1940 production No. 70.
Bert
Thanks for all the fascinating detail, Bert. It's a pity it's a hodge-podge of parts rather
…your research consideration.
1928 Model 57 ser# 9426 .22 long rifle.
Bottom of barrel stamped “27”. Also branded with “633/(B)217”.
Furniture has had an attempt to give it homemade “lines” on the cheek rest. Further custom carving is a matching swirl eye opposite
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…were a group of late model 52B's that were hand stamped either with "U.S. PROP." on the RH side of the barrel, "U.S. PROPERTY" above the serial number on the receiver or
…Maverick said
JWA helped me figure out that the U.S. Property stamp I have was for marking the top side of the Model 52 / 52B barrels.
Mark on your roll die. I do not believe that is a serial number, but rather some sort of factory inventory number. Several of
….L. Peck, John A. Gough and the John Ulrich.
JWA helped me figure out that the U.S. Property stamp I have was for marking the top side of the Model 52 / 52B barrels.
Mark on your roll die. I do not believe that is a serial number, but rather some sort of factory inventory number. Several of
…
Mine is no exemplar. Because of its 1960 vintage, it left New Haven with a brazed sight ramp and the same plastic buttplate worn by the Models 88 and 100.
By the time it came to me in 2002, it wore an incorrect Lyman front sight in an aftermarket hood, an aftermarket, flared, black
…top edge has been chipped at an angle so the 90 degree notch for the 42W is not readily apparent.
The most interesting thing is that is NOT a Model 56 or 57 receiver, it does not have the rear scallop with the arrow to line up with the safety marking. It is likely a replacement Model 69
…page, it was manufactured in 1915. It is in like-new condition and is a fantastic shooter, though that barrel gets hot!
Serial Number: 776305
Caliber: 30 WCF
Magazine Tube: ⅔ length (holds 5 rounds of 30-30)
Stock: I assume this is the flat plate shotgun style butt…
…directly. You can view some here: Winchester 1894 Photos
-Sixvolt
Unfortunately, none of what follows is good (or positive) news about your Model 1894.
What you have is a "Frankenchester"... a Winchester assembled from the parts of many other donor guns.
Specifically, the receiver…
…
The butt stock & checkered steel butt plate are from a post-1945 production but pre-1947 Carbine.
The serrated hammer is from a post-1946 Model 94.
Winchester did not drill & tap any Model 1894 receiver frames for a Redfield, Lyman, or Williams receiver mounted peep sight.
The…
…Redfield sight on your Model 1894 is a post-1940 production No. 70.
Bert
…:
Forgot to mention that I am also bringing and pretty skookum late model Henry rifle that would make an awesome retirement gift from the firm and go perfectly with the book!
…page, it was manufactured in 1915. It is in like-new condition and is a fantastic shooter, though that barrel gets hot!
Serial Number: 776305
Caliber: 30 WCF
Magazine Tube: ⅔ length (holds 5 rounds of 30-30)
Stock: I assume this is the flat plate shotgun style butt stock
Barrel:
…sight, some single leaf, double leaf, triangle marked, notched, etc. and the sight on that rifle is different than the "normal" #6 supplied on the Model 57 but I don't know why.
The only other piece of information you mentioned that is throwing me for a loop is you mentioned "it doesn’t have holes…
…for a 42w rear sight" and as far as I know EVERY Model 56 and 57 receiver was drilled and tapped for a rear peep sight and the Model 56 had plug screws installed if a receiver sight was not installed. Possibly they are below the wood line?
Thanks again for sharing.
Best
…said
I am not the expert on Model 52's but this website has a LOT of parts for sale.
A lot of wisdom here in this post, as is, this whole thread. IMO!
I have learned a lot…
…learning tool for me, pointed out a few other things that I overlooked.
These Gentlemen are experts in this field, and have looked at far more model 52's than we can possibly dream about! IMO!
Thank You for the Tutorial!
Anthony
…said
Hi Rob,
You have pretty much answered your own question, the price range is about $250-$500 for nice condition standard models. The 74 with the 88A rear peep sight or the gallery version (with shell deflector) bring more, up to about $900-$1000 in excellent condition…
….
The Model 74 was in no way an "orphan child" of Winchester, the concept of which can be traced back to Bennett Winchester patents at the beginning of the 20th…
…century with improvements by Burton. The Model 74 enjoyed a long production span from 1939-1955 and was replaced by the Model 77 semi-auto. Over 400,000 Model 74s were produced (more than the popular Model 69) and many are still around and functional which is pretty…
…-auto.
Also, it was certainly not the first Winchester .22 semi-auto used for military purposes as that distinction belongs to the Winchester Model 1903 .22 semi-auto which was used by the U.S. Army in World War 1.
There were 5 different catalogued variations of the Model 74 offered, here…
…is a brief synopsis -
G7401R
Model 74 &
Model 74A
1939-1952
.22 Automatic Rifle, Tubular Magazine, .22 Short, 75D Front Sight, Open Sporting 32B/32E Rear Sight
G7402R
Model 74 &
Model 74A
1939-1955
.22 Automatic Rifle, Tubular Magazine, .22 Long Rifle, 75D Front Sight, Open Sporting 32B/32E Rear Sight
G7411R
Model 74
1939…
…-1941
.22 Automatic Rifle, Tubular Magazine, .22 Short, 75D Front Sight, Rear 88A Peep Sight
G7412R
Model 74 &
Model 74A
1939-1951
.22 Automatic Rifle, Tubular Magazine, .22 Long Rifle, 75D Front Sight, Rear 88A Peep Sight
G7421R
Model 74 &
Model 74A
…
….22 Short Rifle, Gallery Special (with shell deflector), 75D Front Sight, Open Sporting 32B/32E Rear Sight
There is not much published on the Model 74 but I am happy to try to answer any questions you may have.
Best Regards,
I have one that is 22 short with threaded barrel from the
…here on this Forum.
Steve, (seewin), and, BRP, and JWA, to name a few, have a lot of experience and their knowledge is second to none on the model 52's! IMO!
Serial number #76907 B, is between the serial numbers that seewin, has in his survey, according to the model B sporting rifle.
…am not the expert on Model 52's but this website has a LOT of parts for sale.
…with swivels.
As a side note I have the 52A and B as well as the 75 and 75 Sporting rifles that I enjoy shooting regularly.
winchester-model-52b-sporting-bolt-action-rifle-w-lyman-peep-mfd-1953-exceptional
…said
Thought I'd share this nice Winchester model 52 A Sporting Rifle.
A very clean and nice specimen, with a good bore to boot. All numbers are correct, and matching properly.
Correct sights…
…A, falls between, #40592-#41406, for, "A", Sporters!
Serial number #41304 A, mfg, in late April-early May, 1936, according to Herbert Houze model 52 book.
A Thanks to Steve, as a gentleman, and a wealth of knowledge on these masterpieces. If him and JWA, ever decide to do a book on the…
…Winchester model 52, we will all be appreciative, as I not only feel it's needed, but the wealth of knowledge between these two gentlemen is astounding!
Anthony
…H. said
Here is another FAKED Winchester;
Winchester Model 64 Deluxe 35 Remington -RARE- for sale (gunsinternational.com)
I surveyed this rifle late last year when it was still a standard 30-30.
…Everyone,
I thought you might want to know about the debut of the NEW Winchester Model 98 Double Signal Cannon. The first new model signal cannon produced under the Winchester brand since 1903. Here's the press release:
Dunlap Cannon Co. Unveils Winchester Model 98 Double…
…Signal Cannon
Sandusky, MI — Dunlap Cannon Co. proudly announces the launch of the all-new Winchester Model 98 Double Signal Cannon, a dramatic evolution of its iconic Model 98. Produced and sold exclusively by Dunlap Cannon Co., this double-barreled…
…powerhouse pays homage to over a century of American tradition with a bold new twist.
Introducing the Model 98 Double Signal Cannon
Inspired by the original Model 98 cannon introduced in 1903, the Model 98 Double is a side-by-side, breech-loading cannon…
…barrel options, a cast-iron carriage, and an unmistakable presence that elevates ceremonies, celebrations, and special events.
“The idea for the Model 98 Double came from watching how people actually use signal cannons—race officials, yacht clubs, reenactors, and patriotic event organizers—often…
…Double is our answer to those moments that demand more impact.” — John Dunlap, Owner, Dunlap Cannon Co.
Like its single-barrel predecessor, the Model 98 Double is proudly manufactured in the United States using American-sourced raw materials and assembled with rigorous attention to detail. Each…
…cannon reflects the enduring legacy of quality, performance, and patriotic pride associated with the Winchester brand.
Coming June 2025
The Model 98 Double Signal Cannon will be available in a limited initial release through WinchesterSignalCannon.com at the end of June 2025. The cannons are…
…. Collectors, event organizers, and enthusiasts can now experience an even more commanding version of this timeless piece of Americana.
Winchester Model 98 Double Signal Cannons can be found at WinchesterSignalCannon.com.
MSRP: $3,699 - $3,999
…Arms Promotions has listed alot of non-cataloged Model 70s with concerns. I did not see the Model 64 listed in .35 Remington, but from the above it seems that he listed it. Bert, thank you so much for pointing this out. Fake guns are
…
Late to the party here, did they ever actually make 64's in 35 Remington? Seems strange to me to do that.
No, Winchester did not. The Model 64 was chambered for all of the same cartridges found in the Model 1894 and in late 1936, the 219 Zipper (a squeezed down 25-35 WCF).
Bert
…
Late to the party here, did they ever actually make 64's in 35 Remington? Seems strange to me to do that.
No, Winchester did not. The Model 64 was chambered for all of the same cartridges found in the Model 1894 and in late 1936, the 219 Zipper (a squeezed down 25-35 WCF).
Bert
…the new magazines stamped with the Browning logo and the even newer ones stamped Winchester, made for the Miroku manufactured Winchester and Browning Model 52 Sporting, work just fine in the original New Haven-made Winchester 52 rifles.
Display the gun with the BRP-blessed magazine but load up and
…can't miss it.
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…extra, "W", stamped 5 round magazines, for shooting. I have an acquaintance, who loves his .22 Winchesters, and several extra, magazines, for these models that take them, and not one with the patent date on it!
Anthony
