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1894 Short Rifle examples wanted
October 1, 2015
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Is the front sight on a ramp or dovetailed directly into the barrel? More often than not, an extra lightweight will have a ramp front sight and a 3 leaf express rear sight. Some photos would help and you can send them to gjwhite@vcn.com if you want to.

Thanks for helping with the survey.

~Gary~

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October 18, 2015
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   This is fantastic stuff, the detailed surveys being done on these ever beautiful 94 Winchesters. Here,s two more for you. #1  Model 1894 rifle  in 30 cal. ser# 321470  14″oct.bbl. full mag. plain trig. cres. butt , 73/8 rifle forearm, standard sporting front and rear sights that shipped dec.11, 1906 .  #2    ser#101109  in 38-55 cal. 24″ extralite  oct.bbl. 1/2 mag. plain pistol grip stock checkered  shotgun butt , hard rubber buttplate, takedown  standard sporting sights, the front one beiing dovetailed in the bbl., 91/2 forearm.       Henry

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October 20, 2015
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Henry

Thanks for your contributions. I didn’t have either of those in the survey so I will add them.

~Gary~

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December 11, 2015
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Gary:

Sent a PM but don’t know if you got it. On Gunbroker,  # 529679965  22″ ELW, S.N. 114749    # 528511884  20″ OB, 1/2 M S.N. 122902.

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December 11, 2015
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Paul,

Yes I got it and appreciate the help. On the 20″, It looks like the checkering was added outside the factory but has been on it for a long time. Any thoughts?

Just wanted to say its good to see you back on the forum, its been about a year. Welcome back, and I hope all is well back east.

~Gary~

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December 11, 2015
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deerhunter said

The Cornelius A. Wood Gunbroker rifle was once for sale at Cabelas:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winchester-Model-Deluxe-Light-Weight-Takedown-Rifle-WCF/1118865.uts

Probably a gift from his father since they were extremely well to do people.

James

December 16, 2015
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I have the following two 1894 short rifles:

Ser. #147804, 30 WCF,  20″ OCT., 8 3/8″ FOREND, FULL MAG., EXPRESS REAR/STANDARD 1/2 NICKLE FRONT, RIFLE BUTT, WIN. LETTER

Ser. #667126, 38-55 CAL., 16″ OCT. ‘NICKLE STEEL’, 7 3/8″ FOREND, FULL MAG., SEMI BUCKHORN REAR/STANDARD 1/2 NICKLE FRONT, RIFLE BUTT

Hope this helps,

RR

December 18, 2015
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Thanks RR, I have added both of them to the survey.

~Gary~

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December 29, 2015
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Here is one you may not have:

SN:  580553

20″ BBL

Full magazine

8 3/8″ Forearm length

Dovetail on rear sight is 15 1/8″ from muzzle

1/2 octagon bbl

Not a takedown

Not an ELW

Crescent Butt

Front sight is a dovetail

Caliber is .30WCF

Express three leaf rear sight

that is it.

 

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December 30, 2015
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    I found a couple more short rifles in the rack for Your survey #1 ser#602387is a 20″ rnd. bbl., f. m., cres. butt in 30w.c.f. it has a 83/8″ forearm. In about 65%+original cond. #2 ser#229454 letter states # applied july 19 1904 cal. 30, rnd. bbl.,  24″, extra lite,  plain trig. pist. grip stock, shotgun butt, rubber butt plate, checkered, oil finish 1/2 mag., It has regular rifle sites and a lyman tang sites. The gun is in about 90%+ original cond. with brilliant case colors and virtually all of the blueing ,(thin in spots),remaining.  Although not mentioned it has xx wood and is so stamped on the tang also the assembly #19943 is stamped on the stock and the lower tang      Henry

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January 11, 2016
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January 18, 2016
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PackerBacker said

Here is one you may not have:

SN:  580553

20″ BBL

Full magazine

8 3/8″ Forearm length

Dovetail on rear sight is 15 1/8″ from muzzle

1/2 octagon bbl

Not a takedown

Not an ELW

Crescent Butt

Front sight is a dovetail

Caliber is .30WCF

Express three leaf rear sight

that is it.

 

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Thanks PB, that’s a new one for the list.

~Gary~

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January 18, 2016
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Henry Mero said

    I found a couple more short rifles in the rack for Your survey #1 ser#602387is a 20″ rnd. bbl., f. m., cres. butt in 30w.c.f. it has a 83/8″ forearm. In about 65%+original cond. #2 ser#229454 letter states # applied july 19 1904 cal. 30, rnd. bbl.,  24″, extra lite,  plain trig. pist. grip stock, shotgun butt, rubber butt plate, checkered, oil finish 1/2 mag., It has regular rifle sites and a lyman tang sites. The gun is in about 90%+ original cond. with brilliant case colors and virtually all of the blueing ,(thin in spots),remaining.  Although not mentioned it has xx wood and is so stamped on the tang also the assembly #19943 is stamped on the stock and the lower tang      Henry

Thanks Henry………..both new to the survey. I assume the 24″ has a 9 3/8″ fore end?

Sorry for the late responses, thought I had entered these earlier. I appreciate all the help.

~Gary~

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January 19, 2016
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deerhunter said

Here’s another one for the survey.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=535554830

Added to the survey – Thanks deerhunter

Interesting gun w/ at least six special order features, depending on how you count them. A little steep on the price, although how many ’94 shorties do you see with 3/4 mag TD and a lettered Lyman 21? Cool piece.

~Gary~

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February 7, 2016
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Here is a recently acquired short rifle

Serial# 527612

Barrel, 20″ octagon barrel

Caliber 30WCF

Rear Sight 4″ from frame to center of dovetail

Forearm 8 3/8″ 

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Hope this helps

Brian

February 7, 2016
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Thanks Brian…….a new entry and a nice looking shortie.

~Gary~

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February 23, 2016
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Gary,

Here’s another 24″ 1894 short rifle for your survey.  

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=543668331

February 23, 2016
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Thanks.   I didn’t have that one. Its too bad the condition is not that great, otherwise its a great configuration…..and caliber.

~Gary~

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February 23, 2016
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BTW – the 25-35’s only represent 5.84% of the short rifles I have logged. They are good property indeed.

~Gary~

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