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1894 Short Rifle examples wanted
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The Cornelius A. Wood Gunbroker rifle was once for sale at Cabelas:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winchester-Model-Deluxe-Light-Weight-Takedown-Rifle-WCF/1118865.uts

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I knew I saw it somewhere else.  Wow, Cabelas drastically reduced the price.

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Dads-model-94.jpgImage EnlargerGood evening,

 

Here’s a ’94 that my Dad bought almost new many, many years ago.  It has a 19 inch barrel, full length magazine, the rear sight was replaced with a Marbles tang peep (because of my failing eyesight).  It’s forearm is 9 inches and it has a shotgun butt with a steel butt plate.  It is serial number 1266935.

 

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Is that a carbine? It looks like it has a carbine forearm.

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1873man said

Is that a carbine? It looks like it has a carbine forearm.

Bob

That’s what I am seeing as well………can you post pics showing the entire gun, particularly the muzzle end of the barrel. Also, a little late for a rifle but not impossible.

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Are you sure about the 19″ barrel? Barrel measurement includes the entire barrel including the part screwed in the receiver.

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Probably a pre-war 94 carbine with the 55 style fluted buttstock.

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Good Morning,

 

Attached are some more pictures of my Dad’s 94.  I hope this clears up any confusion (for me too).  I was always under the impression that a barrel of 18 inches or less was a carbine and from 18 to 22 was a short rifle, and of course, above 22 was a rifle.  God knows I could be wrong, it’s been about 15 minutes since I was last wrong, so I’m due to be wrong again.Confused I am somewhat new at this “collecting” thing and there is a tremendous amount I don’t know.  The only thing I am 100% sure of is the fact that this old gun killed many a whitetail while my Dad was alive, and has killed one or two almost every year since.  And it couldn’t be bought for any price!   But, I would like to know what I am talking about when I speak to someone about this wonderful weapon.  So please, educate me if possible.  I am somewhat versed in model 12’s, 42’s, 21’s and the like, but this and a model 52 are the only Winchester rifles I have.  I am more of a shotgun man than a rifle man.Dads-94-muzzle.jpgImage EnlargerDads-94-full-length.jpgImage Enlarger

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Larry,

What you have is definitely a 94 standard carbine made in the early part of 1941. The carbines were a standard 20″ and I’m guessing yours is too if you measure the entire barrel into the receiver. Carbines could be ordered shorter but I’m not sure if that was an option clear into 1941. The two barrel bands, one around the stock, and the other at the end of the barrel and tube are also indicators of a carbine configuration. The rifles were a standard 26″ but could be ordered shorter. By 1941 the rifles were discontinued but I think a few might have been assembled with remaining parts. There are others here that will likely offer a little more detail. Glad to hear you are still using your dads ol’ 94.

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Larry,

I figured the same on the barrel length. Usually barrels are even number of inches i.e. 18″, 20″ and so on. If you post more pictures, it would be a great help you could make them bigger.

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Bob & Gary,

 

Thank you for your reply and information.  Yeah, I measured from the end of the receiver not thinking about the inch screwed into it.  I definitely don’t know all the different configurations and what not concerning these.

 

Again, Thank You!!!!!!!!

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Larry,

Does your Carbine have a “W” stamped on the bottom of the receiver frame below the serial number?

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Bert,

 

No, there is no “W” on the bottom of the receiver.  Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

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Larry Stalnaker said

Bert,

 

No, there is no “W” on the bottom of the receiver.  Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Larry,

Having the “W” stamp is neither a good thing or a bad thing… it is just something that exists for the majority of the Model 94 (and Model 64) that were manufactured in the February 1939 to February 1941 timeframe.

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Hi Gary

Merz listed another 16 in on his site today. Maybe the other one in the Madis book?

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Gary

I just looked at that serial number. LeRoy has “changed the deck chairs”

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Thanks Wally, I will take a look. Leroy’s guns seem to be on a rotation on G.I. and they show up as new arrivals over and over again……..as do many other sellers guns on that site.

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Thanks Wally, I will take a look. Leroy’s guns seem to be on a rotation on G.I. and they show up as new arrivals over and over again……..as do many other sellers guns on that site.

Yes they do!!  And it is a hassle for those of us doing survey to go through them time after time looking for the one actual new listing.  BUT his photos are MUCH better than what they used to be.

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Hear is one from down under

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rifle

24″  half round

plain triger

plain pistol grip

lyman hunting front and leaf sights

lyman tang

takedown

cheers

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Hello Tony,

A few questions….

I will assume 9 3/8″ fore-end wood, crescent butt, and full magazine.

What caliber is it?

Thanks for your contribution.

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