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Winchester Model 56/57 Research Survey
February 3, 2019
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dmmbird@comcast.net said
Hi,

Do you have this one?

Winchester Model: 57, 22 Long Rifle
Serial Number: 24142

Hope this helps, 

Daniel  

No, I did not have that one either, where did you see it?

Thanks!

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Hello,

Winchester Model 57 Target Bolt Action Rifle, #28237, .22 LR

https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Military-Artifacts/Firearms/Winchester-Model-57-Target-Bolt-Action-Rifle/lotInformation/46303775#topoflot

They just listed this one.

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February 3, 2019
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Hello,

As listed on the website:

"Winchester Model 57 Bolt Action Rifle with Threaded Muzzle
Manufactured from 1927 to 1936.

Manufacture: Winchester
Model: 57-Rifle
BBL: 22 inch round
Stock: walnut
Gauge: 22 LR
Finish: blue
Grips:
Serial Number: 17693
Class: Curio & Relic Long Gun"

https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Military-Artifacts/Firearms/Two-Winchester-Sporting-Rifles/lotInformation/45732616#topoflot

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February 3, 2019
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Hello,

Model: 57

Caliber: 22 Long Rifle

Serial #:21618 

Located on: Gun Broker

Link: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/795647627

February 10, 2019
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I’ll add a few to the database:

1) Winchester Model 57

.22 LR

#12406

(Original peep sight and folding sight)

 

2) Winchester 57

.22 short

#2999

(missing sights, drilled and tapped w/ Weaver K4 scope mounted)

***This one has a threaded barrel which I assume is for a period correct “silencer”, can someone please elaborate on this topic.....I’ve seen 2 now that are threaded the exact same way. 

February 10, 2019
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BigIron6 said
I’ll add a few to the database:

1) Winchester Model 57

.22 LR

#12406

(Original peep sight and folding sight)

 

2) Winchester 57

.22 short

#2999

(missing sights, drilled and tapped w/ Weaver K4 scope mounted)

***This one has a threaded barrel which I assume is for a period correct “silencer”, can someone please elaborate on this topic.....I’ve seen 2 now that are threaded the exact same way.   

Thanks!

Those are both new additions to the survey.

Prior to the The US National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934 which regulated suppressors/"silencers" they could be readily purchased and installed by threading the muzzle end of the barrel by any competent gunsmith.  Winchester would also thread the barrel and supply a suppressor on special order but most were installed post-sale.  The standard thread in the U.S. for suppressors is 1/2-28 so most threaded barrels are exactly the same.  The standard thread for suppressors in the U.K. is 1/2-20 which is an easy way to tell if a rifle was modified over there.

After the NFA in 1934 silencers could still be purchased and legally owned after paying a Federal tax of $200 which in 1934 depression era dollars was the equivalent of about $3,800 (about 2-3 years salary for the average worker).  The NFA law for suppressors remains the same to this day so if you wanted to purchase a suppressor for your Winchester Model 57 the $200 tax stamp is not nearly so painful as it was in 1934.

Thanks for participating in the survey!

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JWA said

BigIron6 said
I’ll add a few to the database:

1) Winchester Model 57

.22 LR

#12406

(Original peep sight and folding sight)

 

2) Winchester 57

.22 short

#2999

(missing sights, drilled and tapped w/ Weaver K4 scope mounted)

***This one has a threaded barrel which I assume is for a period correct “silencer”, can someone please elaborate on this topic.....I’ve seen 2 now that are threaded the exact same way.   

Thanks!

Those are both new additions to the survey.

Prior to the The US National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934 which regulated suppressors/"silencers" they could be readily purchased and installed by threading the muzzle end of the barrel by any competent gunsmith.  Winchester would also thread the barrel and supply a suppressor on special order but most were installed post-sale.  The standard thread in the U.S. for suppressors is 1/2-28 so most threaded barrels are exactly the same.  The standard thread for suppressors in the U.K. is 1/2-20 which is an easy way to tell if a rifle was modified over there.

After the NFA in 1934 silencers could still be purchased and legally owned after paying a Federal tax of $200 which in 1934 depression era dollars was the equivalent of about $3,800 (about 2-3 years salary for the average worker).  The NFA law for suppressors remains the same to this day so if you wanted to purchase a suppressor for your Winchester Model 57 the $200 tax stamp is not nearly so painful as it was in 1934.

Thanks for participating in the survey!

Best Regards,  

Jeff is correct but in some States all silencers are illegal.  The threaded barrel isn't.  Here in Ca. new guns with a threaded barrel can not be sold.

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Chuck,

Good point, I keep forgetting CA is a "state" 😉

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JWA said
Chuck,

Good point, I keep forgetting CA is a "state" 😉

Best Regards,  

Not your fault, but I'm really not laughing.  Frown

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I'd like to add to the survey...

I own a Model 57, serial number 1045.  This was my dad's rifle and his ownership dated back to the 1950s (as far as I know). I recall a lot of stories of how accurate it was and how many squirrels and rabbits he harvested with it while growing up in Eastern Kentucky.

It has no barrel band but there is a faint outline where it once was and since the stock has no provisions for a barrel band or sling, I suspect the stock was replaced prior to my dad acquiring it.  The stock has a rubber buttplate - perhaps the stock is from a Model 69 (the magazine is identified as such). 

It also has a beat-up front sight that differs from others I have seen in photos of the 57s that I found online.  Perhaps is was added later? 

I've attached a link to an album of photos.  I'd love to know more about it and would love to hear any info or specualtion that you all may have.  I'm also a little curious about the value (though I'll never part with it). 

Here's a link to the photos:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/bJ8GHKm9Y91WYkor6

Model 57 Photos

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I'd like to add to the survey...

I own a Model 57, serial number 1045.  This was my dad's rifle and his ownership dated back to the 1950s (as far as I know). I recall a lot of stories of how accurate it was and how many squirrels and rabbits he harvested with it while growing up in Eastern Kentucky.

It has no barrel band but there is a faint outline where it once was and since the stock has no provisions for a barrel band or sling, I suspect the stock was replaced prior to my dad acquiring it.  The stock has a rubber buttplate - perhaps the stock is from a Model 69 (the magazine is identified as such). 

It also has a beat-up front sight that differs from others I have seen in photos of the 57s that I found online.  Perhaps is was added later? 

I've attached a link to an album of photos.  I'd love to know more about it and would love to hear any info or specualtion that you all may have.  I'm also a little curious about the value (though I'll never part with it). 

Here's a link to the photos:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/bJ8GHKm9Y91WYkor6

Model 57 Photos  

Hi,

Thanks for the information and great photos!  Your rifle was made in 1926 and based on the pictures it has a post-WWII Model 69A stock on it currently.  You can tell it is a 69A stock since it has an inlet area for the thumb safety.  The magazine is also from a 69 or 69A but is the pre-WWII version.  The front sight is not typical to the Model 57 and was likely added post-sale, although there is a slight possibility it could have been special ordered.

Other than the items listed above, the rifle appears to be correct.  I am sure it has more sentimental value than actual collector value.  In the current market it is about a $200 rifle with the deductions due primarily to the replaced stock and extremely worn finish.  They are great shooters though and certainly worth hanging onto.  

Thanks again for participating.

Best Regards,

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