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JWA said
It will have to wait until I retire and move back to Missouri.
2 yrs of scratching ticks & chiggers near Ava sent me running away with my tail between my legs; & that was before Lyme had arrived.
JWA said
I didn’t know it was a contest but ok, I’ll play……I see your 136 gigs and raise you to 265 GB
Jeff, That is what I’m talking about! I too hope to speed up once I retire. I’ve got a while.
Maverick
WACA #8783 - Checkout my Reloading Tool Survey!
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-research-surveys/winchester-reloading-tool-survey/
November 5, 2014
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Hi Bert-
You’re better at this than I am… 
I save my processed pics at 600 dpi and (a standard for continuous tone images in venues I’m familiar with) and cropped to “published image size”. It does get unwieldy… Dropbox (or similar “file sharing” programs) were my friend when it came to things like sending a whole book (“scientific” compendium – not something useful/fun) to the publisher. I always let the journal figure it out… Lucky (for me) that multi-terabyte external hard drives are cheap these days so I can save my files (however inefficiently)…
BTW… I would love to see a “monograph” of your Single Shot collection… Doesn’t matter if it’s 50 guns or 500… Just good pics along with enough info to explain to an ignoramus (me) what I’m looking at… Paper or e-book… Sign me up for a copy…
Lou
WACA 9519; Studying Pre-64 Model 70 Winchesters
Lou,
I am working very studiously on that monograph for the Winchester Single Shot. I am currently just over 80% through an intensely detailed complete survey of the factory records. When it is complete, I will write and publish a detailed statistical analysis of the Single Shot production. It will include photos and descriptions of all the many different cataloged variations, the total production of each variation, and all of the other specific details.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Can’t wait….
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
I have 411 MB of crap stored up so far….now I feel like the 7th grader in the athletics locker room looking at everyone else’s armpit hair. 🤣🤣🤣
Bert H. said
Lou,I am working very studiously on that monograph for the Winchester Single Shot. I am currently just over 80% through an intensely detailed complete survey of the factory records. When it is complete, I will write and publish a detailed statistical analysis of the Single Shot production. It will include photos and descriptions of all the many different cataloged variations, the total production of each variation, and all of the other specific details.
Bert
If you have enough of them, a small book, perhaps spiral bound, of the Single Shot Rifle Collection of Bert Hartman would be welcome. Sign me up as a customer.
November 5, 2014
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Bert-
Count me in for a couple copies also. One to read and one to let “appreciate” in value… 
Lou
WACA 9519; Studying Pre-64 Model 70 Winchesters
November 7, 2015
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Bert-
May seem like a stupid question but will you include the Winder Muskets in this book?
Mike
TXGunNut said
Bert-May seem like a stupid question but will you include the Winder Muskets in this book?
Mike
Absolutely… the Winder Muskets were a very significant portion of the Single Shot production.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Put me on the subscription list, too.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
Louis Luttrell said
Very possibly true, Mike and Al…I think my point was that (IMHO) the best residence for rifles of particularly broad appeal, for whatever reason (historical, aesthetic, or design significance), is where they can be seen and potentially enjoyed by the largest number of interested people. IMHO a “private collection”, where a gun may be locked up in a private vault for 50+ years and never see the light of day, is not necessarily that place… It may bring a great deal of pride to the “owner” (temporary caretaker), but little else…
OTOH (arguing your point)… Museums will often accept “donations” only so that they can turn around and sell the donated items to raise funds for something that the current curator thinks is more “appropriate” for the museum collection. I would not want to see a gun like M51 S/N 1 go to Cody only to be sold off to raise funds to buy a brass spittoon that Bill Cody was once rumored to have spat in while whoring in some bar… 😀
So I see your point…
What about these??? Currently living at my house (like the M51)…
These are four of the five Alden George Ulrich engraved M70s made circa 1947 for Dr. Russell C Smith and subsequently pictured in Dean Whitaker’s M70 book. Provenance is impeccable (from RCS to Lou Leonard on down)… The fifth gun (bottom) in the first photo is S/N 87160, the Style D carved “RCS” M70 shown in both Whitaker’s and Rule’s books. Are you saying these should be indefinitely locked in my vault away from public eyes? Or would it be OK/better for them to be seen publicly, i.e. “in a museum”? Many MANY WACA members have firearms more noteworthy than these and I would like to be able to see (not “own”) them…
Perhaps many collectors’ driving interest is to “cash out” when they’re gone and sell their collection on to benefit survivors (who may or may not care where the money came from)… I read that a lot here… Nothing wrong with that… But I don’t consider guns like these to be “investments” and I have NO interest in their market value, either now or when I’m gone… They are interesting to look at and possibly learn from, and I’d rather maximize that opportunity than maximize ROI…
Am I just weird??? What do YOU think???
Lou
Hey Lou,
This is in the August RIA premier auction. When I saw it, I remembered this post and your Dr. Russel C. Smith Winchesters.
Al
tionesta1 said
Hey Lou,
This is in the August RIA premier auction. When I saw it, I remembered this post and your Dr. Russel C. Smith Winchesters.
Al, why did you have to post this? Now Lou will be obligated to buy it to make “his” collection complete. No worry, I won’t bid against you, Lou.
Lou,
You are very lucky that the rifle in the August RIA auction is not a 22 Hornet… No Weiner wagging contest for that rifle from me!
On a serious note, I hope that you are going to go after it with intense resolve.
Bert
p.s. I finally put together a few hundred rounds of K-Hornet test ammo for the Lysle Kilborn Model 70 Super Grade. My top-end load is 14.0 grains of Hogden Lil’ Gun under a 35-gr V-Max bullet. The expected velocity is 3300 fps 
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
November 5, 2014
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Hi Bert-
Been looking at that one since the 16-page RIA Premier Auction flyer was posted on-line a couple weeks ago. IIRC it ran through RIA a couple times not too long ago, maybe 2016-2017, and didn’t sell (meet whatever the reserve was)…
Regrettably, just meeting the low reserve would be about 2-years worth of my collecting budget now that I’m a retired pensioner… So unless you want to float me a massive loan on very generous terms???
Lou
WACA 9519; Studying Pre-64 Model 70 Winchesters
November 7, 2015
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I truly believe this rifle belongs in a private collection, 95% (or more) of museum goers would not understand the significance or appreciate the craftsmanship. It would be awesome to have them all under one roof again but they tell me sharing is good, too. I won’t be bidding, either. I’m hoping to be able to score some windows, doors, floor coverings, foundation work, a roof and a wall or two, maybe even a carport. My minuscule collecting budget is literally gone with the wind but I sure enjoyed looking at this Swift!
Mike
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