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I have been at this for just over 6 years now and just crossed over the 15,000 rifle mark in my database!  Thansk to everyone who has contributed and helped me.  I appreciate all the support and info.  Not sure that I will make another 15,000 rifles but I see no reason to stop now.  Now to distill it all.

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Michael

  

Michael

Of the 15,000+ Model 92 rifles in your survey how many ‘rod in butt’ guns have you recorded?

Thanks, Ted

  

Good morning Ted,

I am now up to 17,000 rifles and just 16 have been found with the rod in butt option.

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Good morning Ted,

I am now up to 17,000 rifles and just 16 have been found with the rod in butt option.

Michael  

Interesting information… The number of Model 1894 rifles I have surveyed that were equipped with a Trap Door butt plate is approximately the same at (20).

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Hello, all.  Just found this thread a couple of minutes ago. Just wanted to make sure it was still active.  If so, I have a rifle to add to the list.  Thanks.

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Hello, all.  Just found this thread a couple of minutes ago. Just wanted to make sure it was still active.  If so, I have a rifle to add to the list.  Thanks.

  

Good morning,

Yes, I am still working on the survey and would welcome any rifle you may have and am happy to answer any quqestions about it.

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Serial #  4699

Carbine  –  not really sure the difference between the models, this is a guess

Octagonal barrel, 24″

Crescent rifle, no pistol grip, no checkering

Solid frame

32 W.C.F.  , marked on top

Type 1B

Type 1  –  periods after both top and bottom

Widow’s peak on hammer

Will post photos

Not a saddle ring carbine

No Winchester Proof stamps

 

As soon as I figure out how to take and post photos, will get them posted.

 

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Serial #  4699

Carbine  –  not really sure the difference between the models, this is a guess

Octagonal barrel, 24″

Crescent rifle, no pistol grip, no checkering

Solid frame

32 W.C.F.  , marked on top

Type 1B

Type 1  –  periods after both top and bottom

Widow’s peak on hammer

Will post photos

Not a saddle ring carbine

No Winchester Proof stamps

 

As soon as I figure out how to take and post photos, will get them posted.

  

This would be a rifle and not a carbine.

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Thanks.  Not really familiar with the terminology.

**EDIT**  Cannot edit the original post (but obviously could do this one).

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Serial #  4699

Carbine  –  not really sure the difference between the models, this is a guess

Octagonal barrel, 24″

Crescent rifle, no pistol grip, no checkering

Solid frame

32 W.C.F.  , marked on top

Type 1B

Type 1  –  periods after both top and bottom

Widow’s peak on hammer

Will post photos

Not a saddle ring carbine

No Winchester Proof stamps

 

As soon as I figure out how to take and post photos, will get them posted.

 

Paul

  

Paul,

That is a sporting rifle configuration.  The octagon barrel rifles were the most common style produced.  Based on the SN it was manufactured during 1892.  Thanks for the data.  If you have problems with the images send them to my email at [email protected]

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Curiosity killed the cat, how many 1892 src’s  with a smooth pistol grip stock?

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Curiosity killed the cat, how many 1892 src’s  with a smooth pistol grip stock?

  

Let’s just say that my collection of hen’s teeth may be larger!  When  I get a few minutes I will do a search of my data and see what the actual number may be that I have seen.  There was one that just sold at Amoskeag this past weekend.  https://www.proxibid.com/Winchester-Special-Order-Model-1892-Saddle-Ring-Carbine/lotInformation/72598210

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Curiosity killed the cat, how many 1892 src’s  with a smooth pistol grip stock?

  

Let’s just say that my collection of hen’s teeth may be larger!  When  I get a few minutes I will do a search of my data and see what the actual number may be that I have seen.  There was one that just sold at Amoskeag this past weekend.  https://www.proxibid.com/Winchester-Special-Order-Model-1892-Saddle-Ring-Carbine/lotInformation/72598210

Michael

  

Of the 17,500 rifles I have seen there were only 8 pistol grip carbines and 2 of those were checkered.  These will definitely rate as rare.

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Hello all! Newbie 1892 Winchester owner. My rifle has a marking on the barrel that looks like “crossed flags” can someone tell me what this means? I will try and post a picture. Thanks in advance!

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Hello all! Newbie 1892 Winchester owner. My rifle has a marking on the barrel that looks like “crossed flags” can someone tell me what this means? I will try and post a picture. Thanks in advance!

  

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As a guest you can not upload images to the forum.  But please send them to my email at [email protected]  Which of the two proof stamps is identical to your rifle?

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Michael,

just picked this one up. Serial number 332901. 

Octagon 24″ barrel

Rifle butt

Full magazine 

Takedown

25-20 WCF  

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Michael,

just picked this one up. Serial number 332901. 

Octagon 24″ barrel

Rifle butt

Full magazine 

Takedown

25-20 WCF  

  

Thanks so much.  That was at the Donley auction in December.  The rifle is definitely untouched.

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Hi Michael,

After seeing the 25-20 takedown above I realized I may not have given you one of mine (I didn’t see the serial # in this thread).

Serial number 773555 

Serial number applied on October 27, 1914

Octagon barrel (I will have to measure it next time it is out of the safe)

Rifle butt

Full magazine 

Takedown

25-20 WCF

Let me know if there is any other info you want, I will also take some pictures.

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Michael:  Here is another for you: Winchester Model 1892 ser no. 15814  caliber 44 W.C.F.  24 inch Oct barrel, TD Full magazine. Rifle Butt

Beeches front and Lyman tang rear  Letters

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