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Hi Michael,

After seeing the 25-20 takedown above I realized I may not have given you one of mine (I didn’t see the serial # in this thread).

Serial number 773555 

Serial number applied on October 27, 1914

Octagon barrel (I will have to measure it next time it is out of the safe)

Rifle butt

Full magazine 

Takedown

25-20 WCF

Let me know if there is any other info you want, I will also take some pictures.

Best Regards,

  

Thanks so much.  That is a new one for the data.  I also have 773557 listed in identical configuration.   If you get a chance I would love a series on photos of it.

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Michael:  Here is another for you: Winchester Model 1892 ser no. 15814  caliber 44 W.C.F.  24 inch Oct barrel, TD Full magazine. Rifle Butt

Beeches front and Lyman tang rear  Letters

  

Thank you.  I do have it already listed and noted that the info came from you!  I appreciate the effort.

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Michael

Here are a few I currently have. You may have the first two already. 

Mod 1892, 28″ OB, FM, CB, Deluxe                        44 WCF 116049 1899
Mod 1892 1/2 OB, 1/2 M, TD, SB, Lyman 21                                38 WCF 200821 1902
Mod 1892, 24″ OB, FM, CB                  38 WCF 329810 1906
Mod 1892, 24″ OB, FM, CB                  25-20 WCF 768143 1914

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twobit said  

Thanks so much.  That is a new one for the data.  I also have 773557 listed in identical configuration.   If you get a chance I would love a series on photos of it.

Michael

  

Hi Michael, 

I realized I had a taken a few photos when I first got it.  It is not a spectacular rifle but the takedown feature is cool and it is a great shooter! 

The receiver and forend cap are gray all over but the rest of the bluing is reasonable.  It almost looks as if the receiver was originally case-colored?  I have not disassembled it to see what the receiver looks like beneath the wood.  Kinda hate to do that since it looks like it has not been messed-with much.

If there are any other details you would like photos of just let me know and I will shoot them the next time it goes to the range.

Best Regards,

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Michael

Here are a few I currently have. You may have the first two already. 

Mod 1892, 28″ OB, FM, CB, Deluxe                        44 WCF 116049 1899
Mod 1892 1/2 OB, 1/2 M, TD, SB, Lyman 21                                38 WCF 200821 1902
Mod 1892, 24″ OB, FM, CB                  38 WCF 329810 1906
Mod 1892, 24″ OB, FM, CB                  25-20 WCF 768143 1914

  

Only had the first one.  The other three are newcomers!!  Thanks so much.  If/when you get a chance can I please get a series of photos of the bottom three rifles.  Barrel addresses, upper tang, caliber stamp, and anything special.

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twobit said  

Thanks so much.  That is a new one for the data.  I also have 773557 listed in identical configuration.   If you get a chance I would love a series on photos of it.

Michael

  

Hi Michael, 

I realized I had a taken a few photos when I first got it.  It is not a spectacular rifle but the takedown feature is cool and it is a great shooter! 

The receiver and forend cap are gray all over but the rest of the bluing is reasonable.  It almost looks as if the receiver was originally case-colored?  I have not disassembled it to see what the receiver looks like beneath the wood.  Kinda hate to do that since it looks like it has not been messed-with much.

If there are any other details you would like photos of just let me know and I will shoot them the next time it goes to the range.

Best Regards,

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Thanks so much.  Those are great and definitely a nice and 100% correct rifle. 

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twobit said

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Michael

Here are a few I currently have. You may have the first two already. 

Mod 1892, 28″ OB, FM, CB, Deluxe                        44 WCF 116049 1899
Mod 1892 1/2 OB, 1/2 M, TD, SB, Lyman 21                                38 WCF 200821 1902
Mod 1892, 24″ OB, FM, CB                  38 WCF 329810 1906
Mod 1892, 24″ OB, FM, CB                  25-20 WCF 768143 1914

  

Only had the first one.  The other three are newcomers!!  Thanks so much.  If/when you get a chance can I please get a series of photos of the bottom three rifles.  Barrel addresses, upper tang, caliber stamp, and anything special.

Michael

  

Here’s a few pics of 200821. I don’t have any pics of the other two, and nothing special about either of them. Let me know if you need something verified on one of those two. 

Mod 1892 1/2 OB, 1/2 M, TD, SB, Lyman 21                                38 WCF 200821 1902

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Michael,

Do you have 613252 in your survey? If not, I’ll take photos and send them along…..

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Michael,

Do you have 613252 in your survey? If not, I’ll take photos and send them along…..

  

Yes I do have it already.  Thanks so much.

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Hello Michael,

Do you already have in the survey SRC, button magazine, serial 734695 ?

If not I will post pictures and details.

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Hello Michael,

Do you already have in the survey SRC, button magazine, serial 734695 ?

If not I will post pictures and details.

Best Regards.

  

I do not have that rifle in my data and would love to add it.

Thanks so much

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I apologize for the poor-quality pics, but if there is anything you’d like to see better I will take additional/better pics.

Model 1892

Serial # 734695

SRC Carbine

20” Barrel

Caliber 44 W.C.F.

Button Magazine

Gum Wood (?)

I purchased it in Ontario, just north of Toronto in Jan. 2008 and it’s been in my collection ever since. It came the way it looks in the pictures, including the slightly bent rear sight, I haven’t touched a thing.

Would you know, percentage wise, more or less, how many 44 WCF half-magazine carbines were produced ?

Thank you and best regards.

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Thanks for the effort of posting the images.  A long time ago in the summer of 1974 I spent a little time north of Toronto around the little town of Bancroft.  I was a geology student in college and we were on a field trip up there.  Gorgeous countryside as I recall.  I locked my keys in the trunk of my car.  Found a guy working on his cottage that loaned me a few wrenches so that I could take out the back seats of the car and access the trunk.  Crazy times.

It will take a bit of spread sheet manipulation to try to get an answer to the rarity question.  I will try to set a side some time and give it a try.

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Thank you, not urgent at all.

I know the lakes around Bancroft well, many canoe trips with my scout troop, eons ago.

From the geological point of view the Canadian Shield is quite compelling … and beautiful.

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Thank you, not urgent at all.

I know the lakes around Bancroft well, many canoe trips with my scout troop, eons ago.

From the geological point of view the Canadian Shield is quite compelling … and beautiful.

  

I have always thought of going back with multiple fly rods and doing some fish sampling!!  Would it be worth it?

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I would say yes, Ontario in general is a fishing paradise, and for the past few years the exchange has been favorable to the US dollar.  Southern Ontario is better known for its lakes than rivers and perhaps fly fishing is not as popular as spinning, but plenty of fishermen of both.

Just a few hours north of Toronto are the areas called Muskoka, The Kawarthas, Haliburton and especially Algonquin Provincial Park; they come from all over to vacation and fish here.

Depending on your tolerance for blood sucking bugs, be aware of spring and early summer.    

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I would say yes, Ontario in general is a fishing paradise, and for the past few years the exchange has been favorable to the US dollar.  Southern Ontario is better known for its lakes than rivers and perhaps fly fishing is not as popular as spinning, but plenty of fishermen of both.

Just a few hours north of Toronto are the areas called Muskoka, The Kawarthas, Haliburton and especially Algonquin Provincial Park; they come from all over to vacation and fish here.

Depending on your tolerance for blood sucking bugs, be aware of spring and early summer.    

  

Thanks!  I am pretty well rehearsed on the blood sucking bugs as  I spent lots of time in northern Michigan and several trips to Alaska.  I could have paid for the trip if I had brought more than one mosquito netted hats!!  Those guys got eaten alive!!!   

 

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Hi Michael,

 

I received an M1892 Rifle today:

Serial Number 3132

Sporting rifle

Round Barrel 24″

Crescent butt stock

Solid frame

Caliber .44 WCF

Barrel Adress Type 1c

Uper Tang Adress Type 1

`widow’s peak’ Hammer

No Winchester Proof stamps

 

Greetings from Germany

 

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Hi Michael,

I received an M1892 Rifle today:

Serial Number 3132

Sporting rifle

Round Barrel 24″

Crescent butt stock

Solid frame

Caliber .44 WCF

Barrel Adress Type 1c

Uper Tang Adress Type 1

`widow’s peak’ Hammer

No Winchester Proof stamps

Greetings from Germany

Steff

  

Thanks so much for the data on your new rifle.  I have added it to my survey.  The 1C barrel address is only found on very early round barrel sporting rifles and carbines.

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Michael,

I just received  1892

856720 

Sporting rifle

Octagon barrel 24″ 

Crescent butt

Solid frame

32 WCF

Purchased from  5 Star Auctions.  

Please advise if you have any questions or comments. 

Thanks, Kevin 

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