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Keith, the second order number on the Cody letter refers to a “return and repair”

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Thanks, Michael. I’ll take some close up pictures and send them to later today. Regarding the Cody letter, no I didn’t know to request a picture of the ledger.  What other information might be recorded in the ledger?

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Thanks, Paul.

That makes me wonder if the repair was when it was modified.

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Keith Pardoe said

Thanks, Michael. I’ll take some close up pictures and send them to later today. Regarding the Cody letter, no I didn’t know to request a picture of the ledger.  What other information might be recorded in the ledger?

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Keith,

Sometimes,  but not often the ledger pages are a bit difficult to interpret for a specific serial number.  Exactly what occurred during and R&R is rarely noted but there may be other information that was omitted from the letter.

I look forward to the photos.

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twobit said

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For your 1892 rifle survey. Saw this one on gunbroker.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=518890475

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I saw that rifle Al.  It is interesting that the serialization date is in 1901 but the rifle was not assembled and in the warehouse until two years later!!  During the R&R in 1912 the barrel was replaced since it has proof stamps and the caliber stamp and barrel address are both located on the left side.  The barrel is definitely not original to the rifle.  And the sights have been replaced.  A great configuration but it looses points, and value, due the non-originality and condition of the receiver.

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Although it’s a matter of personal opinion of course, I think you’re dead wrong in this assessment, if we’re interested (as most collectors claim to be) in the “human” history of a particular piece. That some previous owner took the trouble (which damned few ever did) to have his (probably “favorite”) gun returned to the factory for refurbishing and/or improvement trumps “originality” in my estimation; I don’t think this personal attention “looses points,” it should add them, if we really care about history.  I’m not “de-valuing” the importance of originality, merely pointing out that it should not be the ONLY factor worthy of consideration.

For example, I have a very well-used (though not obviously abused) ’94 with the forearm wear characteristic of having been carried a long while in a leather loop on a saddle horn, just as depicted in the paintings of Russell and other Western artists.  When I sold off all my other ’94s years ago (including some near mint examples), THIS was the one I chose to keep.  I should hope you’d be capable of understanding why.

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Dmc said
http://s1139.photobucket.com/user/dmcummins/slideshow/1892

hope this helps.  

Thanks so much for the images!!

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twobit said

Thanks so much for the images!!

Michael  

I wonder what happened to the prof marks?  Aren’t they suppose to be by the caliber stamp.

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Dmc said

I wonder what happened to the prof marks?  Aren’t they suppose to be by the caliber stamp.  

Dmc,

The rifle is too early for proof marks to be found on it.  Based on the serial number your rifle was manufactured during 1902.  Winchester began the use of proof stamp marks on the Model 1892 during production in the latter half of 1905 around SN 300,000.

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Hi Michael and Chris,

I saw this one at the Wichita, KS Cabelas today;

1892 TD – serial # 289462

Has a Model 65 barrel in 218 Bee, Rifle has been reblued.

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My 1892, SN 1948, can be seen here.  Regards, Ron

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Kind of scarce. A takedown in 44-40 from 1911. Minty bore, some case remains, but spotting on the receiver. Still, it is one of the nicest takedown 44’s I have seen.   Big Larry

 

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rwsem said
My 1892, SN 1948, can be seen here.  Regards, Ron  

Thanks for the images Ron.  Is that background frost on the wood?  Can I please get a photo of the barrel address stamp and one looking down on the front sight?

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Yep it’s frost/ ice… happens every few years here.  Hope this helps:

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rwsem said
Yep it’s frost/ ice… happens every few years here.  Hope this helps:

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Thanks.  Those are perfect.  We did not have frost over here in Houston but the flowers still got hammered at 23 degrees!

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G’day Michael.

I have a PM coming your way with a bunch of 1892’s for the survey from here in Australia. Most have been for sale here in the last 3 years. Have been doing the same for Bob with his 1873 survey.

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G’day Michael.

I have a PM coming your way with a bunch of 1892’s for the survey from here in Australia. Most have been for sale here in the last 3 years. Have been doing the same for Bob with his 1873 survey.

Kind regards

Chris  

Thanks so much Chris.  I will take a look tomorrow morning.  I just arrived in Houston, TX after driving 19 hours from our summer home in Michigan.  Time for deer season, hog hunting and saltwater fly fishing!!

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deerhunter said
Michael,

Do you have this 1892 musket in your survey?  Not too many of these around…

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-antique-lever/winchester-model-1892-musket-rare-.cfm?gun_id=101107390

Don  

Hello Don,

That musket just sold out of Morphy Auction in June, Lot #265, for $5228.  Thanks for the help.

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Just a note to say “thank you” to everyone who has contributed to date to this project.  I now have 12,050 rifles entered in my survey which is a bit over 1.2% of the total production when you take out the Model 53 and 65 serial numbers.   I would love to double this number before I die!!!   And and all rifles are welcomed no matter the condition or configuration.  Every one is another small piece of the puzzle.  And I am happy to answer any questions which you might have.

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