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Winchester Model 1892 All Rifle Survey
November 5, 2015
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Henry Mero said

  Hi Michael  Do You have any idea how many Mod. 92 15" rifles were made. I just purchased ser# 102645. It is in pretty good shape, and all there and all correct, although a brown gun and I think I got it pretty reasonable. It letters as rifle, .38 cal, round bbl. 15" plain trigger, numbered Dec. 7, 1898 shipped Jan. 9 1899. I just bought it for resale or trade on My favorite , 1894s. Any help would be appreciated.     Henry

Hello Henry,

I saw that rifle at a gun show show in Houston a few years back and have it in my survey.   I was not able at the time to get any photos of it and would appreciate any details that you can send my way.  2bitrifles@gmail.com  

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Hi Micharl    I am at work and the gun is at home but i,ll get You some details to-nite. Do You have any idea how many of these 15" rifles were built?   Henry

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For your 1892 rifle survey. Saw this one on gunbroker.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=518890475

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For your 1892 rifle survey. Saw this one on gunbroker.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=518890475

Al

I saw that rifle Al.  It is interesting that the serialization date is in 1901 but the rifle was not assembled and in the warehouse until two years later!!  During the R&R in 1912 the barrel was replaced since it has proof stamps and the caliber stamp and barrel address are both located on the left side.  The barrel is definitely not original to the rifle.  And the sights have been replaced.  A great configuration but it looses points, and value, due the non-originality and condition of the receiver.

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For anyone researching the Model 1892 Trappers;

http://www.amoskeagauction.com/108/68.html

http://www.amoskeagauction.com/108/401.html

 

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Michael, one more 1892 followed me home.

WINCHESTER MODEL 1892 - SERIAL NUMBER 358729

Serial number applied on November 02, 1906

Type: Rifle

Caliber: 44

Barrel Type: Round

Trigger: Plain

Received in warehouse on December 07, 1906

Shipped from warehouse on December 10, 1906, Order number 77146

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Michael, one more 1892 followed me home.

WINCHESTER MODEL 1892 - SERIAL NUMBER 358729

Serial number applied on November 02, 1906

Type: Rifle

Caliber: 44

Barrel Type: Round

Trigger: Plain

Received in warehouse on December 07, 1906

Shipped from warehouse on December 10, 1906, Order number 77146

Don't you just hate that  when the rifle just won't let you go???   I assume the magazine is full length?  Could you please send me a series of photos of the stamped writing on the gun?  2bitrifles@gmail.com

 

Thanks so much

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You got it.

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On the way

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hedley lamarr said

Did you get these already Michael?:

http://bhgappraisals.com/wp/?s=1892+winchester&post_type=product

Brad

WOW!!  No I do not!  But I will the first thing in the morning!   Thanks so much.  Yet another website to follow.  

Thanks Brad!  I really appreciate it.

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It looked like a lucky strike.  Google images works well sometimes.

Thanks for the 1895s.

Brad

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Pile of 1894s there too...

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Got them!

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Were you keeping track of these too?  I noticed the date on the barrel.
http://bhgappraisals.com/wp/shop/1894-winchester-25-35-wcf-serial-373434-saddle-ring-carbine/
Kind of a neat gun, maybe somebody here took it home.

 

Brad

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Brad,

Yes, I am surveying all Model 1894 serial numbers > 353999. The patent date error on it is of special interest. Thus far I have surveyed (18) round barreled Model 1894s with it (no octagon barrels thus far).

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 1892 Wincvhester 25-20 WCF SRC (no ring), Carbine.  Serial # is 446438.  Missing magazine tube and forearm.  Will take photos later and will forward them to you.3

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Bob Maerdian said
 1892 Wincvhester 25-20 WCF SRC (no ring), Carbine.  Serial # is 446438.  Missing magazine tube and forearm.  Will take photos later and will forward them to you.3  

Hello from Rome,

I ma visiting Rome for 10 days so my Winchester time will be at a premium I am afraid.  Thanks for the information on the rifle.  Based on the serial number the rifle was manufactured during 1908.  Is there a dovetail cut into the bottom of the barrel near the front sight?  That would indicate the rifle originally had a full length magazine.  I will look forward to receiving the photos.

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Hello,

I am new to this forum, I just discovered it existed a few minutes ago. 

A couple of years ago, I bought a 92 saddle ring carbine in 44 WCF that was produced in late 1905.  Serial # 31xxxx, which shipped from Winchester in December of 1905 according to the Cody factory letter.  There are two order numbers associated with this carbine, #37508 on December 19, 1905—on which it shipped from the factory—and order #40036 on December 28, 1905.  No information was found for the latter order number. 

My 92 has a couple of odd features that I am attempting to research.  First, it has a bayonet lug on the right side of the barrel (approximately the 3 o'clock position).  The top section of the end of the magazine tube (and cap) are relieved to allow the collar of the bayonet to fit between the muzzle and the magazine.  Second, it has furniture for attaching a sling to the stock and on the barrel forward of the forend—it's dovetailed into the underside of the barrel.  My 92 has the standard factory proof markings on the barrel and receiver.  There is one additional marking—a circle A—that is stamped into the area below the 44 WCF marking, close to corner where the forend meets the receiver.  There are no markings on the tangs or frame under the stock. (I have not been able to find information on the circle A mark on the barrel.)

I am on the hunt for a bayonet that fits my 92, but when I discovered this forum and your research project I thought you might like to know about my 92.  One local collector speculated that my 92 was sent to Mexico or one of the South American countries where it was modified and used as a police carbine.  Another expert seemed to agree and put me on the trail for a Remington bayonet that was part of a Mexican contract in the late 1890s/early 1900s. 

Yet another expert seems very certain that the bayonet lug modification is a Winchester factory modification; it's very well done and appears to have been made at the time of production.  The mysterious second order number (see above) might shed some light on this, but no other information is available for that order. 

I you like, I can send you some pictures of my 92 and its special features. 

Have you seen other 92 SRCs like mine?  Do you have any information that might help me find the bayonet that fits it?

I appreciate any information you are able to share with me.

 

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Good morning and welcome to the the forum Keith,

Photos will be a great place to start in assessing your rifle.  Please send them to my email at 2bitrifles@gmail.com  When you got your factory letter did you also request an image of the ledger entry for your specific serial number?

Michael

   

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