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Hey Burt, i have a year 2 production 71′ SN 4,165. Bolt peep checkered wood. I’d rate it a 90% gun. Last gun i got from a mentor of mine before he passed.

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Hey Burt, i have a year 2 production 71′ SN 4,165. Bolt peep checkered wood. I’d rate it a 90% gun. Last gun i got from a mentor of mine before he passed.

Thanks, and I already had it listed in the survey.  RIA sold it in their September 2017 auction.  It was manufactured in late August 1936, and it is a standard Model 71 Special.

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Burt, I have one for your survey. #13725. Deluxe rifle with 22-K rear sight. Any idea when it was made? Steve

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Burt, I have one for your survey. #13725. Deluxe rifle with 22-K rear sight. Any idea when it was made? Steve 

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October 12th, 1937.  Any chance you can send me some pictures of it?

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I sent the pics

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Hi Bert, saw two Win 71’s at a small town gun show today in PA.

sn 24582, short tang, carbine, 98a bolt peep, tapped for receiver sight, blank in rear slot, flat muzzle (white). 

sn 1001, long tang, standard but has a deluxe forend cap, 22k sight, non-slotted bolt, flat muzzle (white).

I will send pics to your email as we communicated on my ‘71.

Hope this helps.

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Hi Bert, saw two Win 71’s at a small town gun show today in PA.

sn 24582, short tang, carbine, 98a bolt peep, tapped for receiver sight, blank in rear slot, flat muzzle (white). 

sn 1001, long tang, standard but has a deluxe forend cap, 22k sight, non-slotted bolt, flat muzzle (white).

I will send pics to your email as we communicated on my ‘71.

Hope this helps.

Hello Paul,

Thanks! I will look forward to seeing the pictures.

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Bert, #14069 resides with me now. It is a Frankenstein’s nightmare. Early 70s polish re-blue, LPI checkering deluxe in the front wood (includes an ivory diamond and ebony plug) , 18 LPI on the butt w/ noticeable wood differences in wood color and finish. Incorrect steel buttplate. 

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Bert, #14069 resides with me now. It is a Frankenstein’s nightmare. Early 70s polish re-blue, LPI checkering deluxe in the front wood (includes an ivory diamond and ebony plug) , 18 LPI on the butt w/ noticeable wood differences in wood color and finish. Incorrect steel buttplate. 

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Todd,

Please send the pictures to me in an email – [email protected]

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Bert, Picked one up in Tulsa Saturday. #13189. Deluxe with 98a peep sight (just the base). When was it made? Steve

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Bert, Picked one up in Tulsa Saturday. #13189. Deluxe with 98a peep sight (just the base). When was it made? Steve

  

September 22, 1937.  It should have a flat (uncrowned) muzzle in the white.

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Burt do you have 22532 in your survey?

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Burt do you have 22532 in your survey?

  

I do… it was sold in the February 2024 RIA auction, Lot #4615.  Date of manufacture – 9/18/1942.

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Yes it was. Just thought Id ask

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Yes it was. Just thought Id ask

  

Thanks, I appreciate it.  I am still actively surveying the Model 71.  The current total is 3,167 (6.7%) documented of the 47,254 that were manufactured.  I hope to one day find at least 10% of them.

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Well I will do my best to help you with that. Laugh I do have an affinity for them as they are so closely related to 1886’s

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Bert, Picked one up in Tulsa Saturday. #13189. Deluxe with 98a peep sight (just the base). When was it made? Steve

  

September 22, 1937.  It should have a flat (uncrowned) muzzle in the white.

Bert

  

Bert, #13189 does have a flat uncrowned muzzle in the white. Thank you!

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Bert:

I think you earlier received and cataloged my five pre-war Model 71s, all under 16000 SNs-long tangs with various

original sight arrangements,. Three equipped with the 98A bolt peep, one with Lyman 56 and one with 22 K AND Lyman 56.

I have seen and owned a few Model 71s that had the Lyman 56 sight along with the Marbles 95 fold -down sight. These were 

most popular in Alaska and Canada, where hunters or homesteaders were a long way from a gunsmith if the owners had sight issues.

To my knowledge, most of the Marbles 95 sights were replacements. They were usually not found on Model 71s with original 98A sights.

Two more:

Possible my  unlisted:  SN 6749- {1936}—98A sight- Win sling attachment-Standard grade Pre-war-Flat muzzle (in the white)

”   ”      ”     Unlisted   15161  — {1937-38}  Pre-war long tang  Lyman 56 -Standard grade-Flat muzzle

One contributor mentioned the recoil of a .348  M-71 carbine/short rifle. He should try a pre-war Model 71, original barrel but re-chambered and

re-rifled to 450 Alaskan (400 gr bullets by Kodiak-AK Bullet Works).

Regards;

Ridge

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Bert:

I think you earlier received and cataloged my five pre-war Model 71s, all under 16000 SNs-long tangs with various

original sight arrangements,. Three equipped with the 98A bolt peep, one with Lyman 56 and one with 22 K AND Lyman 56.

I have seen and owned a few Model 71s that had the Lyman 56 sight along with the Marbles 95 fold -down sight. These were 

most popular in Alaska and Canada, where hunters or homesteaders were a long way from a gunsmith if the owners had sight issues.

To my knowledge, most of the Marbles 95 sights were replacements. They were usually not found on Model 71s with original 98A sights.

Two more:

Possible my  unlisted:  SN 6749- {1936}—98A sight- Win sling attachment-Standard grade Pre-war-Flat muzzle (in the white)

”   ”      ”     Unlisted   15161  — {1937-38}  Pre-war long tang  Lyman 56 -Standard grade-Flat muzzle

One contributor mentioned the recoil of a .348  M-71 carbine/short rifle. He should try a pre-war Model 71, original barrel but re-chambered and

re-rifled to 450 Alaskan (400 gr bullets by Kodiak-AK Bullet Works).

Regards;

Ridge

  

Ridge,

I had S/N 6749 listed in the survey as a Special with plain (non-checkered) stocks.  Does it have a plain or a capped pistol grip?  I found it listed on Gunbroker back in October 2017.  At that time, the right-hand side of the receiver frame was drilled & tapped for a side mount scope.  DOM 10/23/1936.

S/N 15161 is a new entry in the survey, DOM 2/14/1938.

Thanks,

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