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Just in case this rifle shows up again, Buyer Beware!  It is a FAKE!

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/859073165

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Bert,

Model 71 special serial # 12388 up for auction this weekend.  Appears to have bolt peep sight, can’t tell the barrel length from photo.  Do you have it in survey already?  If no, I’ll provide additional info after I see it.

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Model 71 special serial # 12388 up for auction this weekend.  Appears to have bolt peep sight, can’t tell the barrel length from photo.  Do you have it in survey already?  If no, I’ll provide additional info after I see it.

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No, I do not have it listed yet. Which auction is it in?

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Bert,

This is follow up on Model 71 serial # 12388 special rifle.  Sold at Owings Auction, Clear Brook, VA today (12 DEC) for $2.2k.  Special rifle, long tang, 24″ barrel, bolt peep.  Looked real nice in single photo on web (right side view)…however upon personal look I noted left side of receiver D&T for 4 scope mount holes with filler screws and compass embedded in left side of butt stock.  I passed.

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Mac,

Thanks for the update… it is now in the survey.  2,369 (5.013%) and counting…

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Bought model 71 Winchester last night.  Standard model with factory Lyman #56 peep.

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Bought model 71 Winchester last night.  Standard model with factory Lyman #56 peep.  

What is the serial number?  Can you provide some pictures of it?

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Hi Bert,

I just picked up my first (but not last) Model 71. Serial # 5584. I am not sure if you have this one in your survey or not. It is a “Special” rifle with a 24″ barrel and checkering on the stock and fore end. It is in 348 WCF with the 98A bolt mount peep site. If you need more information for your survey please let me know and I will provide it.

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We have in our care, a Long Tang Delux 71 serial number #16161 which I date either as1937 or Jan. 1940,  from the tales of its two Pennsylvania brothers who owned it – until the elder passed away just before Covid descended.

24″ Barrel ~ Lyman peep sight. Caliber .348 Win. of course.

The 71 is accompanied by an equally clean & barely fired Winchester model 54 Bolt Action in 30 Gov’t. 06 with nickel steel barrel.

~ Lyman peep & folding leaf rear sights and gild bead front. Sling swivels ~ steel butt plate.

Serial # 18099 with production ending in 1936, so we thought this may be from same approximate time period, though the 54 series started in 1925. Just over 50,145 built is the word on the street.

 

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If you can help pinpoint any further Winchester information for us ~ it would help as we try to round out the few new arrivals like our 1943 Winchester Garand with Serial # 1273008 that accompanied pretty minty Model 63 serial # 981671 (98167A) in front of trigger guard that might be of 1951 production? Has Super-speed & Super X barrel markings….. thanks for any insight and teaching you can give my little family collection hobby. Email me at [email protected] please or Text NineOhThreeeighttwoonenineteensixtysix

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We have in our care, a Long Tang Delux 71 serial number #16161 which I date either as1937 or Jan. 1940,  from the tales of its two Pennsylvania brothers who owned it – until the elder passed away just before Covid descended.

24″ Barrel ~ Lyman peep sight. Caliber .348 Win. of course.

The 71 is accompanied by an equally clean & barely fired Winchester model 54 Bolt Action in 30 Gov’t. 06 with nickel steel barrel.

~ Lyman peep & folding leaf rear sights and gild bead front. Sling swivels ~ steel butt plate.

Serial # 18099 with production ending in 1936, so we thought this may be from same approximate time period, though the 54 series started in 1925. Just over 50,145 built is the word on the street.

 

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If you can help pinpoint any further Winchester information for us ~ it would help as we try to round out the few new arrivals like our 1943 Winchester Garand with Serial # 1273008 that accompanied pretty minty Model 63 serial # 981671 (98167A) in front of trigger guard that might be of 1951 production? Has Super-speed & Super X barrel markings….. thanks for any insight and teaching you can give my little family collection hobby. Email me at [email protected] please or Text NineOhThreeeighttwoonenineteensixtysix  

Hello Charles,

Model 71 S/N 16161 was actually manufactured in May of 1938.  You mention that it has a Lyman peep sight… is it a No. 56W ?

Model 54 S/N 18099 was manufactured late in the year 1928 (S/N 19590 was the last one made in late December 1928).

Model 63 S/N 981671 was most likely manufactured in the year 1951.

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Hi Bert, I have a standard Model 71 ser#37308 w/ Lyman 66ma sight.

 

Thanks Kent

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Hi Bert, I have a standard Model 71 ser#37308 w/ Lyman 66ma sight.

 

Thanks Kent  

Thank you for the information.

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Bert,

Just picked up a new to me Model 71 standard rifle # 3538. Long tang, uncrowned white faced 24″ barrel. It does have the Type One barrel address as you showed in your Summer of 2021 magazine article on the 71’s.The rear sight notch is filled with a blank and it has the correct 98A bolt mounted peep. I hope this adds to the survey. 

I just want to add how much I appreciate the time and effort you put into these surveys and the articles you write. The information that you share is invaluable to those of us with the passion for these old guns. Thank you.

Glenn

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Bert,

Just picked up a new to me Model 71 standard rifle # 3538. Long tang, uncrowned white faced 24″ barrel. It does have the Type One barrel address as you showed in your Summer of 2021 magazine article on the 71’s.The rear sight notch is filled with a blank and it has the correct 98A bolt mounted peep. I hope this adds to the survey. 

I just want to add how much I appreciate the time and effort you put into these surveys and the articles you write. The information that you share is invaluable to those of us with the passion for these old guns. Thank you.

Glenn  

Hello Glenn,

Model 71 S.N 3538 was listed & sold on the Auction Arms website by Mainguns.  I found it listed in June of 2020.  AT that time, the No. 98A Bolt-peep sight was missing.

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Bert,  I have model 71 Special Rifle, SN# 1855, bolt peep and no rear sight dovetail.

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Bert,  I have model 71 Special Rifle, SN# 1855, bolt peep and no rear sight dovetail.

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Nick,

I saw this rifle listed on Gunbroker in late May of this year.  It has a dovetail slot for a 22-K rear sight, but has a filler piece installed.  It also a Pachmayr recoild pad on it.

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Bert,

 I provided the information on the rifle as it was manufactured because I believed that was what you wanted in your survey.  It does have an aftermarket recoil pad.  But there is no rear seat I assure you.  As I listed above that was how it left the factory and the stock was cut and the pad added later.D4C0A5C2-242F-4644-BE2B-E98AFF1D7CA5.jpegImage Enlarger This is the photo of the barrel.

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Bert,

 I provided the information on the rifle as it was manufactured because I believed that was what you wanted in your survey.  It does have an aftermarket recoil pad.  But there is no rear seat I assure you.  As I listed above that was how it left the factory and the stock was cut and the pad added later.D4C0A5C2-242F-4644-BE2B-E98AFF1D7CA5.jpegImage Enlarger This is the photo of the barrel.

Stay Well,

Nick  

Hmmm… very interesting to say the least.  Of the several thousand Model 71 rifle barrels I have looked at, this is first one that does not have a milled dovetail slot for a 22-K rear sight.

In regards to the information for the survey, I am capturing as much information as possible for each Model 71 I encounter. No detail is too small or insignificant.

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Bert,

That was why I purchased the rifle because I have never seen a Model 71 with no rear dovetail.  Just thought it was different to say the least and wanted you to have it in your survey.

Nick

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