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Doug Green said
Hi Bert,

I have another for you. It is a standard rifle with Lyman 66MA sight. 24” barrel.  SN 45568. The first Winchester I purchased to collect.  Hope to get a hold of more 71’s.

Thanks

Doug  

Doug,

Thanks for adding your late production (1957) Model 71 to the list.  There are lots of really nice Model 71s out there to collect, with several subtle variations.  I currently have 1,537 (3.25%) of the total production in the survey, and expect to eventually survey at least 10% of the total number manufactured.  Eventually, I will publish all of my results in a new reference book.

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Bert,

Can’t wait for the reference book.

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Winchester 71, SN: 26382, short tang, Standard model. 1948 Vintage.

Rifle has been refinished….

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Winchester 71, SN: 26382, short tang, Standard model. 1948 Vintage.

Rifle has been refinished….  

Tom,

Which type of rear sight does it have (e.g. 22-K, Lyman No. 56W, No. 98 Bolt Peep, etc.)?  Is the muzzle flat (uncrowned), or crowned?  Is the hammer checkered, or serrated?

Thanks for the survey information!

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Bert, re: 26382.

Marbles 60 series Sporting sights?

Similar to sight pictured on bottom of page 72, Stroebel’s book “Old Gunsights”.

No. 67 semi-buckhorn.

Not original sight for the Winchester 71.

Muzzle is crowned, second series 348 W.C.F. barrel.

As stated earlier this rifle has been re-finished, metal & wood.

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Tom,

The original sights most likely went missing before or during the refinishing process.  Is the bolt milled & tapped for the No. 98A sight?  Is the receiver frame drilled & tapped for the Lyman No. 56W sight?

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Frame is Drilled & Tapped for Lyman sights….

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Here’s another for ya. 23087 standard

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Here’s another for ya. 23087 standard  

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Which type of rear sight does it have (e.g. 22-K, No. 98A, or Lyman No. 56W)?  Is the muzzle flat, or crowned?

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Bert H. said

Thanks!

Which type of rear sight does it have (e.g. 22-K, No. 98A, or Lyman No. 56W)?  Is the muzzle flat, or crowned?

Bert 

maybe you can help me identify. I’m not too familiar with guns so I’ll attach a link to pics of it. thx. https://postimg.org/gallery/2hbgch1wy/ 

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martylazar said

Bert H. said

Thanks!

Which type of rear sight does it have (e.g. 22-K, No. 98A, or Lyman No. 56W)?  Is the muzzle flat, or crowned?

Bert 

maybe you can help me identify. I’m not too familiar with guns so I’ll attach a link to pics of it. thx. https://postimg.org/gallery/2hbgch1wy/   

Marty,

Please send the pictures directly to me at [email protected]

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Hi Bert,

 

Curious if you have this one.  SN 21858.  Deluxe carbine.  22K rear sight.  

 

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Hi Bert,

 

Curious if you have this one.  SN 21858.  Deluxe carbine.  22K rear sight.  

 

Doug  

Doug,

I do have it.  One of our WACA members in Canada provided the information for it back in 2014.

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Hi Bert,

Gib Curtis here.

Not sure if you want this one in your 71 survey but here it is.

#18636, short upper tang, reblued receiver only purchased with an incomplete set of parts.

Second set of parts purchased at another time that included enough parts to complete the receiver.

New old stock Winchester factory replacement 24″ barrel in 348 winchester. Included with this purchase an original forend and complete magazine assembly w/ sling swivel forend cap.

All new coil replacement springs from Numrich Arms. New replacement buttstock from Precision Gun Works of TX. New old stock Model 70 buttplate fitted.

This is one old girl that has lived to shoot another day.Kiss

For the purists out there, I always include non factory “mistakes” so that this rifle cannot be confused for an original.

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Hello Gib,

Good to hear from you!

I had this serial number in the survey already. I saw it when it was auctioned a couple of years ago (still whole), and then when it was listed on Gunbroker and resold as parts.

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Bert,

 

Curious as to that receiver’s original configuration when whole. 

 

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Curious as to that receiver’s original configuration when whole. 
 
Gib Curtis  

It was a standard rifle.

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I was at my LGS today and they had three nice 71’s on the wall. Two were standard and one was (semi?) deluxe.

The guys at the store were grumpy (as usual) so I plan to go back and spend more time with them, especially now that I read Bert’s excellent article in the magazine when I got homedid briefly check out the two with receiver sights, one Lyman and one Redfield. Again need to go take better notes when I have more time but the two SN’s of the nicer ones were 35184 (std)
38794 (dlx). 

I’m curious if you have these in your survey, Bert. I plan to go back and take a closer look when they are less busy and less can get more info and check out the other one. I’d like to purchase one if I can get a reasonable deal (great deals are few and far between in L.A.). But I need to understand the 71 a little better.

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Steve,

I do not have them in my research survey… yet, and will eagerly await getting more information about them from you after your next visit to the gun shop.

Winchester referred to the “deluxe” as a “Special” in their catalogs. The information I would like to get for each rifle is the specific type of rear sight on the rifle, and on the Special, is the grip cap hard rubber (with the Winchester logo), or is it a smooth blued steel cap. Both serial numbers are early 1950s production, with the short tang, drilled & tapped for a receiver sight, crowned muzzles, type-2 barrel address, and serrated hammers. For the third rifle (unknown serial number), please check & note all of those features.

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Thanks Bert. I need to go back when the ratio of “tacticool kids” to “old timers” is more in my favor. 

Prices aren’t the best at this store but the condition of the two I mentioned was pretty good and that Special is calling to me. 

I’ll let you know when I have more info. 

 

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