September 28, 2016
OfflineChuck,
I ran into a similar problem with my 1895 chambered in 40-72. I am using 405 dies with 40-72 brass and I was not getting enough of a squeeze on the neck to hold the bullet securely. I called Lee and they made me a factory crimp die that solved the problem. They also said 8 weeks but I don’t think it took them 2 weeks to get it to me.
On another note, did you purchase that 45 EX from a dealer in PA on Guns international? The reason I ask is I purchased a 50 Ely from him on the day he posted it. He also had a 45 Ex listed and I was contemplating buying both but I realized the probable headache of acquiring the proper components to actually shoot it. I’m out of the same mold as you as far as being able to shoot the guns I own.
Erin
March 31, 2009
OfflineErin Grivicich said
Chuck,
I ran into a similar problem with my 1895 chambered in 40-72. I am using 405 dies with 40-72 brass and I was not getting enough of a squeeze on the neck to hold the bullet securely. I called Lee and they made me a factory crimp die that solved the problem. They also said 8 weeks but I don’t think it took them 2 weeks to get it to me.
On another note, did you purchase that 45 EX from a dealer in PA on Guns international? The reason I ask is I purchased a 50 Ely from him on the day he posted it. He also had a 45 Ex listed and I was contemplating buying both but I realized the probable headache of acquiring the proper components to actually shoot it. I’m out of the same mold as you as far as being able to shoot the guns I own.
Erin
I bought the 45 EX from Wards auctions. It actually was not hard to shoot once I obtained the correct brass, 450 nitro express, that could be formed into the 45-125. But getting the dies is a different story. I was able to obtain a copy of the reamer print for this caliber but Lee didn’t want to use it. I probably should have done as you did and ordered a crimp die first. After fire forming I did not have a way to crimp the neck for the next firing. None of my other 45 dies would work because the semi shoulder of the EX would not let the brass go into these dies. Too fat.
I recently bought and fired a Sharps Model 1878 Borchardt long range target rifle in 45-2.1″ aka 45 -70. Less than 300 of these were made. I had to thin the rim of the 45-70 cases because the headspace for the Sharps is less. I also found out that new, at least Hornady, 45-70 brass is shorter than the older brass?
I wasn’t quite ready to post my next project but I got bored and started on it. I will start a new thread on it.
March 31, 2009
OfflineIt’s been awhile since I had anything to report. Lee Precision sent me an update on the dies. They should be done in the next couple weeks. This is good for me. I don’t want to send them the 38 EX cases for dies before I see how they did on the 45 EX dies.
Also, a bit off topic, I was informed that my stock for the F Class Open rifle I’m building will be done today and shipped tomorrow. 
November 7, 2015
OfflineCool! I think I’d spend some time with the new dies before I had them make another set for the other cartridges.
Mike
March 31, 2009
OfflineI agree. We’ll see. Also I need to work up a smokeless load. They sent me another email stating all the reasons the next set of dies will cost more. They want me to send them during their slow time. I said OK and explained that the 38 and 40 may need another die before it will go into their f/l die or my chamber for fire forming.
November 7, 2015
OfflineChuck said
Came home from vacation and my 45 EX dies are here. Haven’t had time to look at them yet.
Vacation’s over, back to work!
Mike
November 7, 2015
OfflineNice! I like the new retaining nuts. Good to see a big company like Lee doing custom work. I’ve been part of some bullet mould group buys where if we got enough people that wanted a custom mould Lee would do a limited run for us. A fellow hog hunter from Cuero, Texas had a knack for designing wide meplat heavy hunting bullets that he tested on the hogs frequenting his ranch. I did a bit of Beta testing on the hogs a few hours south of his place. I wonder how Ranch Dog is doing these days.
Mike
April 15, 2005
OfflineChuck said
Here is a pic of the 45 EX dies.
When they returned the brass and bullets they also included 1 sized dummy round with a seated bullet. Loads with no problems.
What was the final tab for those dies? The look really nice
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L

March 31, 2009
Offline$309 but not anymore.
TXGunNut said
Nice! I like the new retaining nuts. Good to see a big company like Lee doing custom work. I’ve been part of some bullet mould group buys where if we got enough people that wanted a custom mould Lee would do a limited run for us. A fellow hog hunter from Cuero, Texas had a knack for designing wide meplat heavy hunting bullets that he tested on the hogs frequenting his ranch. I did a bit of Beta testing on the hogs a few hours south of his place. I wonder how Ranch Dog is doing these days.
Mike
With the O rings the rings stay put and no tools required. Redding claims they can make dies too but the cost is quite a bit more.
November 7, 2015
OfflineHaven’t seen that box before. I suppose you didn’t need a case mouth expander. Have you used Lee’s Factory Crimp die?
Mike
March 31, 2009
OfflineTXGunNut said
Haven’t seen that box before. I suppose you didn’t need a case mouth expander. Have you used Lee’s Factory Crimp die?
Mike
I assume there is an expander on the shaft in the F/L die. I haven’t used the die set yet but I do use one of their crimp dies for my 44 WCF.
November 7, 2015
OfflineChuck said
TXGunNut said
Haven’t seen that box before. I suppose you didn’t need a case mouth expander. Have you used Lee’s Factory Crimp die?
Mike
I assume there is an expander on the shaft in the F/L die. I haven’t used the die set yet but I do use one of their crimp dies for my 44 WCF.
Chuck-
I use a case mouth expander for most cast lead bullets, especially if they have a sharp base. I use a Lyman M-Die and an expander a couple thousandths smaller than the bullet. It also flares the case mouth so I don’t damage the bullet when I start it down the neck. The FCD will remove the flare.
Mike
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