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Anthony
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I’m in agreement with the above comments, as it’s important that you use the right screw drivers, or “turn screws”, as an ole’ time terminology. You stated that you we’re a little nervous doing the work to be done, in removing the stock. There’s nothing wrong with that. Setting up properly at a comfortable uncluttered area, bench or table is important. Everything must be stable and no slipping and sliding around. Securing the rifle in the proper rifle/gun vise is very helpful, after the Bolt and magazine are removed, as Steve has indicated. Padding the bottom of the vise with a towel or cloth that will only help, from scratching or adding any dents or unwanted marks, is always a good idea. 

Carefully cleaning out the slots in the screws of dirt and grime that could hinder good screwdriver blade fit, can also be important. A lot of times a light tapping on the end of the bit, on the two piece screwdriver, can really help to loosen the screw, without marring it or beating up the top of the screw. As Zeb suggested, Kroil, setting overnight in the screws to be removed works wonders. If it they get messed up, you’ll wish you’d taken even more precautions.

Many of us are looking forward to you’re pics of the inside of the barrel channel of the wood stock, the underside of the barrel stamps, and even the inside of that custom worked butt plate. In many cases these stamps and marking can be facing different directions, so several different pics will help. 

With the wood being custom made, and the front barrel band not being Winchester made, I agree with Steve’s recommendation, on the front sling swivel, taking the place of the front screw, and holding the front of the stock on. A light tapping with the heal of you’re hand in all likelihood will release the wood stock, as you’re careful to remove it and not force anything.

In you’re second and third to last pictures, it shows two dark spots, which look like wood plugs to me. It will be interesting to see what those are for also.

After you remove the butt plate, try to be careful trying to get the metal sight tin out of the storage hole, compartment, as that seems to be made special for that, and scratching the tin, would be a casualty to avoid also. Don’t try to pry the thin, tin sides of the sight tin, as it will scratch and or cave in, making it even harder to remove. Even some strong, yet cheap Harbor Freight Earth magnets that are small enough, yet extremely strong enough to help remove the metal tin, from it’s hold, might work. By securing the rifle in a rifle vise and clamped in. Tapping on the side or end of the wood butt stock end, while using the magnets might be the trick, being careful not to chip or mark the corners of the butt stock where the plate attaches to it.

The key is to take you’re time and think through you’re moves before you try them.

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I have finally gotten some time and have made some attempts to remove the stock.  It is very tight and there is no wiggle room which leaves me very nervous to continue at this time.  However, I was able to take some additional pictures as well as being able to remove the Lyman inserts can that was stuck in the trap,  thanks to the individual that suggested using a hot glue stick.  Please let me know any suggestions for removing the stock,  I will leave the rifle out today for additional attempts and pics if needed.  Thanks for all the help and advice.

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August 13, 2026 - 4:18 pm
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Well I had since been able to remove the stock pictures to follow

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Great job getting it disassembled!  I highly recommend placing all of the loose steel pieces and parts that you removed/disassembled into a container (plastic tub) of Kroil and let them soak over night.  Use a small copper or brass wire brush and/or wool to gently scrub all of the grime and corrosion off of each part, then finish cleaning them in a tub of acetone before reassembling.

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Based on the pictures of the inletting, I believe you have a customized factory stock from a later “Speedlock” model 52. This is based on the fact that the inletting around the trigger is much larger than the original early rifles. The reason for the later difference was because the Speedlock triggers required a stamped steel housing, which in turn, required a larger inletted area for clearance. Your stock could either be a modified/customized target stock, or a “let in” stock blank which was sold by Winchester for shooters that wanted to customize their 52 to meet their personal physical requirements. See below for the inletting on #12 which will be the same on all early pre Speedlock rifles. 

     Also, your barrel is exactly like #12. I have attached pictures for your comparison. Note that neither barrel has “MODEL 52” in the rollstamp, indicating that the early barrels most likely used Winder Musket barrels, which used exactly the same profile.

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You can “bank” Steve’s information.  His knowledge is unsurpassed when it comes to the Winchester 52…. his personal collection is more complete and extensive regarding related items & just cool stuff than any other firearm collection I’ve ever encountered to date.  Now, if Steve would just finish his “opus” on the Model 52, my gun reference library will be complete…. at least until JWA gets the remainder of his books finished… 🙂  I love having smart friends…. cheers!

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MFoster said
thanks to the individual that suggested using a hot glue stick.
  

You’re welcome, that’s a handy little trick for all kinds of stuff! Glad you got it apart finally. I’d take Bert’s advice and address all the active corrosion before that red rust continues to eat your gun. Seek counsel of someone in person who can demonstrate the right techniques though if you’re nervous about that part too! We all might do it a little different but the end results are usually similar…preservation!

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Ben said
 I love having smart friends…. cheers!
  

You actually have “friends” ?? Confused

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Ben said
 I love having smart friends…. cheers!
  

You actually have “friends” ??
  

I actually do Bert…. would you like me to teach you how to make some of your own?

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Ben said

Bert H. said

Ben said
 I love having smart friends…. cheers!
  

You actually have “friends” ??
  

I actually do Bert…. would you like me to teach you how to make some of your own?
  

Why?? Do you really think that you can teach an “old dog new tricks” ? 

I lived by this stated motto during my Navy career “I don’t have a prejudice against anyone… I simply hate all of you!”

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Com’on M.O.M….. all it takes is have a little B.B.Q. gathering (Oysters included) and people will gladly become friends with you!  Even if you are an old cantankerous curmudgeon 🙂

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I have a friend who has a model 52 SN 114. He has offered to furnish pictures. Is this of interest? Don

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Ben said
You can “bank” Steve’s information.  His knowledge is unsurpassed when it comes to the Winchester 52…. his personal collection is more complete and extensive regarding related items & just cool stuff than any other firearm collection I’ve ever encountered to date.  Now, if Steve would just finish his “opus” on the Model 52, my gun reference library will be complete…. at least until JWA gets the remainder of his books finished… 🙂  I love having smart friends…. cheers!
  

I second Ben’s request. At least give us hope for Volume I before I assume room temperature. 

- Bill 

 

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