November 7, 2015
OfflineSight insert tin appears to be hung up on the butt plate; have you tried loosening or removing the butt plate?
Mike
December 9, 2002
OfflineI’m in agreement with the others, as that sure is a nice specimen. Different in a lot of very interesting ways. Originally when this was posted, and before the OP was able to post pictures of it. I thought it might be a good candidate to remove the custom stock and find a donor rifle, and replace/install an early finger grooved stock on it, like the other early examples. Now that I can see better pics than we’re first listed in the Auction, I also like it, and would leave it alone. Maybe time will provide some more details on who did the custom work on this early number #13 model 52.
Thanks for sharing!
Tony
November 7, 2015
OfflineA picture may be worth a thousand words but I can only come up with a few: “Nice, leave it alone!”
Mike
January 20, 2023
OfflineThat custom work is first class and it would be foolish and disrespectful to the craftsman to destroy it. The point pattern checkering looks very well done and is typical of the work of Griffin & Howe that I’ve seen. No blacksmith did this job and I would look very, very carefully with the barreled action out of the stock for evidence of the maker.
Between the World Wars, there were many fine immigrant craftsmen come to the Connecticut River Valley and St. Louis and Chicago, fully capable of doing this level of work and whose names we will never know. But the work speaks for itself.
A Biesen or Brownell or Goens custom model 70 is as “original” as it ever needs to be. So is this Model 52.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
September 16, 2025
OfflineThank ya’ll for the comments. I’ll try and take the buttplate off once I get home in a few weeks. Any other advice or thoughts on the rifle please continue to post. I’ll post pictures once the buttplate is removed. Would y’all recommend removing the action to see any stock makers marks or leave it be.
January 20, 2023
OfflineEven Proto or SnapOn mechanics’ screwdrivers are not suited for gunsmithing. Their tips have tapered sides. If you don’t have a set of gunsmithing screwdrivers, get a set before doing anything else. The tips have parallel sides and a selection of thicknesses and widths. Brownell Magna-Tips are the standard. You’ll use them a lot, so don’t hesitate. And get a set of pin punches while you’re at it, although you shouldn’t need to remove pins right now. The screws may be frozen so get a small can of Kroil penetrating oil in case you need to loosen a screw. Take your time. Leave a Kroil treated screw overnight to work. Beefing down to turn an ancient screw usually results in a buggered screw slot. Let chemistry do the.hard work
If you already have the right tools- or once you get them — get, borrow or download an exploded drawing of your gun and study it carefully. Then look for a YouTube video on how to disassemble a Model 52. You aren’t going to do anything but take the buttplate and the wood off to get a look at what’s underneath. No need to go further.
Best thing is to photograph every mark and stamp while the wood is off and anything you see under the buttplate. Then you can reassemble. While the furniture is off you can seal.the unfinished wood of the inletting with wax or shellac.
Post the images here and we’ll all take a look.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
March 12, 2008
OfflineThere should only be 2 screws to remove. The front action screw is just in front of the of magazine at the front end of the trigger guards. The second screw should be the barrel band screw. Based on pictures, it appears that the front swivel acts as both a swivel and also the attaching screw for the barrel band. Remove the magazine and bolt prior to removing stock. I would look at the stampings on the bottom side of the barrel just in front of the receiver. There will be possible inspection stamps and maybe a barrel date. Look also in the barrel channel of the stock for possible stampings, as well as under the butt plate. If not too much of a problem please take a picture of what is stamped on the bottom side of the barrel.
Steve
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