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…to start reloading for a 1876 40-60, dies seem to be difficult to find. Wondering if 40-65 dies from the 1886 can be used. Brass / bullets are not a problem supriseingly. If
…spears said
I have an1876 Winchester in 45/60 that letters to 1882. I love the looks and romance of this fine old rifle. The bore is bright with visible rifling, but it
…have an1876 Winchester in 45/60 that letters to 1882. I love the looks and romance of this fine old rifle. The bore is bright with visible rifling, but it
…when the 1886 came along chambered for the more powerful cartridges it was marketed as a stronger action and the 1876 was perceived as weak by comparison.
Mike
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Shrapnel said
I was just reading in my 1876 Winchester book about the history of the 1876. There have been many stories spread about how weak the 1876 Winchester action is and I find it interesting to see what the actual field test was to…
…is. Everyone parrots the same old saying about how weak it is and yet this study seems to nullify that rumor.
Here is a picture of a blown up 1876 that the action held and yet the barrel was blown completely off the action...
I had never read a report of this testing before…
…. Quite interesting. Very impressive. I had no idea the 1876 would withstand the level of stress that it did. I suppose I've simply been a reader of parroted material all these years.
Steve,
Don't
…said
I was just reading in my 1876 Winchester book about the history of the 1876. There have been many stories spread about how weak the 1876 Winchester action is and I find it interesting to see what the actual field test was to determine just how weak/strong that action is. Everyone…
…parrots the same old saying about how weak it is and yet this study seems to nullify that rumor.
Here is a picture of a blown up 1876 that the action held and yet the barrel was blown completely off the action...
I had never read a report of this testing before.…
… Quite interesting. Very impressive. I had no idea the 1876 would withstand the level of stress that it did. I suppose I've simply been a reader of parroted material all these years.
… I'm a new student here.
But I thought it was only the earliest 1873 that had an iron receiver and they switched to steel before the 1876 came out? I have not heard of iron framed 1876 before, interesting.
One day I would like to own a genuine Winchester '76. But for now I'm
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Steve, the Model 1878 military trial rifle musket was an attempt to gain the elusive government contracts the Winchester always wanted. Houze's 1876 book has an appendix that covers the Model 1878 musket and the military trials. The trials ended with the Hotchkiss being accepted for limited use…
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The Cody Firearms Museum has the receiver from the trial Model 1878 musket. If you didn't know any better you would think it was a standard 1876 receiver. It's a wee bit longer. There are a couple of photos in the Houze book.
The old chestnut about the Model 1876 action being too "weak"…
… for the .45-70-405 black powder cartridge is just nonsense. Pirkle even repeated it in his book on the Models 1866, 1873 & 1876.
Interesting. I've always heard Winchester wanted a lever action repeater that would handle the .45-70 but the M1876 action would end
… the Model 1878 military trial rifle musket was an attempt to gain the elusive government contracts the Winchester always wanted. Houze's 1876 book has an appendix that covers the Model 1878 musket and the military trials. The trials ended with the Hotchkiss being accepted for limited use…
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The Cody Firearms Museum has the receiver from the trial Model 1878 musket. If you didn't know any better you would think it was a standard 1876 receiver. It's a wee bit longer. There are a couple of photos in the Houze book.
The old chestnut about the Model 1876 action being too "weak"…
… for the .45-70-405 black powder cartridge is just nonsense. Pirkle even repeated it in his book on the Models 1866, 1873 & 1876.
…Bill Hockett said
An interesting topic. The Model 1876 action was plenty strong enough for any factory cartridge that Winchester loaded for it back in its heyday. The experimental Model 1878 used the …
….45-70-405 government cartridge and was strong enough for it. The Model 1878 was a lengthened Model 1876 action used for 1878 military trials.
I don't know exactly when Winchester changed from wrought iron to steel for the Model 1876 receiver. …
…the time noting the change. We know that Winchester didn't like to waste parts so they would have used up the iron receivers.
Probably the Model 1876 changed to steel receivers in the 1882-83 time period when they went to third model style receivers.
Neither Madis or Pirkle in their books
…referring to what Winchester called the Sporting Leaf Rear sight. It was available for the Model 1873 (graduated from 100 to 800 yards, the Model 1876 and Hotchkiss (graduated from 100 to 1000 yards). Probably used on other Winchester rifles as well. I think with the leaf flat, the notch is…
…the 100 yard setting. Raise the leaf and with the slider at the bottom and that is 200 yards, etc.
Here is one marked 2 to 10 and 1876 at the top of the leaf.
…interesting topic. The Model 1876 action was plenty strong enough for any factory cartridge that Winchester loaded for it back in its heyday. The experimental Model 1878 used the …
….45-70-405 government cartridge and was strong enough for it. The Model 1878 was a lengthened Model 1876 action used for 1878 military trials.
I don't know exactly when Winchester changed from wrought iron to steel for the Model 1876 receiver. …
…the time noting the change. We know that Winchester didn't like to waste parts so they would have used up the iron receivers.
Probably the Model 1876 changed to steel receivers in the 1882-83 time period when they went to third model style receivers.
Neither Madis or Pirkle in their books
…said
I have shot every 1876 I every owned with smokeless powder, never used black powder. Never had a problem, always use a filler, only load to original velocity, and bullet
… I have bought three Winchester black powder guns with blown chambers, 1873 44-40, 1886 45-70, and a 1876 50-95. Don't know how they did it but all three blew out down cracking the receiver to the magazine hole. This makes it very difficult to unscrew
…best next year... I wish all shows were like this and as well run! I was also pleasantly surprised when a slide & aperture showed up for my 1876 thick base, long range sight... thanks Tim! I will be sharing the proceeds when it finds a new home. Cheers!
Glad you had a good show,
… I have shot every 1876 I every owned with smokeless powder, never used black powder. Never had a problem, always use a filler, only load to original velocity, and bullet
…best next year... I wish all shows were like this and as well run! I was also pleasantly surprised when a slide & aperture showed up for my 1876 thick base, long range sight... thanks Tim! I will be sharing the proceeds when it finds a new home. Cheers!
…said
Well, there was a recent thread involving a Model 1876 that had exploded and there was no mention of the load and if black powder or smokeless powder?
Test done 1877.
… there was a recent thread involving a Model 1876 that had exploded and there was no mention of the load and if black powder or smokeless powder?
…Winchester 1873, 1876, 1886, 1892, & 1894 rifles and carbines?
And what verified reports are of any of these Models exploding and was smokeless or black powder
…said
Chuck said
Shrapnel said
I was just reading in my 1876 Winchester book about the history of the 1876. There have been many stories spread about how weak the 1876 Winchester action is and I find it interesting to see what the actual field test was to…
…is. Everyone parrots the same old saying about how weak it is and yet this study seems to nullify that rumor.
Here is a picture of a blown up 1876 that the action held and yet the barrel was blown completely off the action...
That is really interesting. It took me years to…
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Have these blown up using smokeless powder? Or was it black powder?
Many claim it’s okay to fire mild smokeless loads in any Model 1873, 1876, 1886, 1892, & 1894. I’m not so certain. I tend to err on the side of caution and generally don’t fire smokeless in anything prior to about
…said
Shrapnel said
I was just reading in my 1876 Winchester book about the history of the 1876. There have been many stories spread about how weak the 1876 Winchester action is and I find it interesting to see what the actual field test was to…
…is. Everyone parrots the same old saying about how weak it is and yet this study seems to nullify that rumor.
Here is a picture of a blown up 1876 that the action held and yet the barrel was blown completely off the action...
That is really interesting. It took me years to…
….
Have these blown up using smokeless powder? Or was it black powder?
Many claim it’s okay to fire mild smokeless loads in any Model 1873, 1876, 1886, 1892, & 1894. I’m not so certain. I tend to err on the side of caution and generally don’t fire smokeless in anything prior to about
…Shrapnel said
I was just reading in my 1876 Winchester book about the history of the 1876. There have been many stories spread about how weak the 1876 Winchester action is and I find it interesting to see what the actual field test was to determine just how weak/strong that action is. Everyone…
…parrots the same old saying about how weak it is and yet this study seems to nullify that rumor.
Here is a picture of a blown up 1876 that the action held and yet the barrel was blown completely off the action...
That is really interesting. It took me years to
…said
I think Chuck is talking about a 1873 or 1876 elevator system with the spring screws. T/R
Tom you are correct. I had my head you know where.
…76 rcvrs iron, not steel?
Most certainly they were iron. The test was also done in 1877.
I am not aware of Winchester using steel for the 1876 at any time of their production, but maybe they did...
…was just reading in my 1876 Winchester book about the history of the 1876. There have been many stories spread about how weak the 1876 Winchester action is and I find it interesting to see what the actual field test was to determine just how weak/strong that action is. Everyone…
…parrots the same old saying about how weak it is and yet this study seems to nullify that rumor.
Here is a picture of a blown up 1876 that the action held and yet the barrel was blown completely off the action...
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I think Chuck is talking about a 1873 or 1876 elevator system with the spring screws. T/R
Hopefully Chuck will chime in. I did send that info to my gunsmith. Is this not applicable for
…I think Chuck is talking about a 1873 or 1876 elevator system with the spring screws. T/R
…Handbook" by George Stone has dimensions of the set trigger parts. As I recall, there are some differences between 1st, 2nd and 3rd models. The 1876 set triggers use some of the same parts.
