sb said
Something’s not right…..may be bidders working for the seller.
Incredibly, I once had a seller admit to me he had a friend bid his no-reserve auctions up to the minimum amount he was willing to sell for, so there is no doubt it happens. I wonder how often this is the case?
Here is another recent auction which I felt was truly ridiculous – a well-worn rifle and not a scarce chambering… so why the crazy bidding war and the extreme sale price?
Well, those bids do make sense. The wood shrinkage is “due to age,” so it appears aging has also affected the metal. When gun-metal shrinkage occurs, the blue’s molecules tend to crowd each other which results in the color appearing darker and richer–Lustrous! –Everyone knows that.
These shrinking Winchesters are quite rare, though due to adding annually a year each and every year and thusly aging/shrinking in this, The New Millennium; and when also considering the unabated disease, Ignobility, perpetuated by/among online sellers, these “Blue Velvet Winchesters” (as we in the business call them) are becoming more common–but not too common! Don’t misunderestimate this. BID MORE. –So Obvious!
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In the Model 70 Pre-64 1953 Featherweight sale, it is not the rifle that brought such a high price–it was the sling. Look at the last sentence of the description. You can’t find a sling like that (worthy of an exclamation point) on any other auctions.
FromTheWoods said
the blue’s molecules tend to crowd each other which results in the color appearing darker and richer–Lustrous! –Everyone knows that.These shrinking Winchesters are quite rare
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In the Model 70 Pre-64 1953 Featherweight sale, it is not the rifle that brought such a high price–it was the sling. Look at the last sentence of the description. You can’t find a sling like that (worthy of an exclamation point) on any other auctions.
Disturbing online sales can only be cured with a good dose of humor. Thanks for this.
I am a novice collector, but I pride myself on getting educated in a new field very fast. Even to me, this is a poor refinish, and I don’t know very much. As for the shill bidder theory, that may well be what is happening here… I have been around auctions a long time, and I know that a shill bit is a very real possibility, even for the cheapest items. Should we be alarmed? No… the buyer will get what he thinks is a prize, the seller will be inspired to restore more crap rifles, and we will all be happy. Well, except that originality will suffer. I am for basic original as you can get. I don’t want my coins cleaned, my pistols reblued, my cars ‘restored’, or my women friends in for a makeover.
Big Larry said
Positively, a P.O.S. Anyone who bids on this rifle is dumber than I look. OH THE HUMANITY !!!!!! Big Larry
Holy Geeeeezus Larry,
I can’t say that, if that was the case,
The buyers would have to be institutionalized.
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pre64win said
Incredibly, I once had a seller admit to me he had a friend bid his no-reserve auctions up to the minimum amount he was willing to sell for, so there is no doubt it happens. I wonder how often this is the case?
Here is another recent auction which I felt was truly ridiculous – a well-worn rifle and not a scarce chambering… so why the crazy bidding war and the extreme sale price?
Yeah Its called SHELL bidding and is not allowed, but goes on all the time. That’s why you got to watch certain sellers.
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Too bad someone tried their hand at restoring that old rifle. That particular configuration with the 1/2 octagon barrel, full mag, and set triggers is a very rare combination of features on a TD 92 rifle.
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That was my thought when I saw the lettering. Great picture of some well-buffed lettering. That could have been a pretty nice rifle. Guess we’ll never know.
1892takedown said
Too bad someone tried their hand at restoring that old rifle. That particular configuration with the 1/2 octagon barrel, full mag, and set triggers is a very rare combination of features on a TD 92 rifle.
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