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How about that sight folks? What would be the best fitting choice? #1 or #2 and should it be with or without the lock?
Only own one 1894, but it's a good one.
The 1907 Winchester Catalogue shows a picture of a Lyman 1, without locking lever, while the 1908 Catalogue shows a 1A with the lever. I would use the older model Lyman 1 simply because of the Catalogue pictures and it would stand to reason Winchester had the older style in inventory in 1903. The only difference between the 1 and the 2 is the large threaded disk and staff to accommodate. I like the look of the 2 on a long barreled gun. Use a Lyman 2D in “color to match” condition of gun. T/R
My recollection of these small group of 36 inch barreled Model 1894’s is that they all were all in either .32-40 or .38-55 only?
steve004 said
My recollection of these small group of 36 inch barreled Model 1894’s is that they all were all in either .32-40 or .38-55 only?
Steve,
Go back and look at post #23 (Rick Hill) in this topic string. Apparently, there was at least (1) made in 30 WCF. I would be willing to bet that there were at least a few more of them made after serial number 353999.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
steve004 said
My recollection of these small group of 36 inch barreled Model 1894’s is that they all were all in either .32-40 or .38-55 only?Steve,
Go back and look at post #23 (Rick Hill) in this topic string. Apparently, there was at least (1) made in 30 WCF. I would be willing to bet that there were at least a few more of them made after serial number 353999.
Bert
Bert – I had missed that table. Glad you pointed me toward it as I find it very interesting and informative 🙂
January 26, 2011
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I think I recall seeing a statement in one of the earlier catalogs about the longer than standard barrels only being available in 32-40 & 38-55, but that’s just going off memory so I could be wrong. Obviously the survey Rick posted proves that wrong. As we all know, Winchester produced all sorts of guns that were not offered as a catalog item.
Enjoy the 36″ 1984 ………. that’s quite a rarity.
~Gary~
TR said
The 1907 Winchester Catalogue shows a picture of a Lyman 1, without locking lever, while the 1908 Catalogue shows a 1A with the lever. I would use the older model Lyman 1 simply because of the Catalogue pictures and it would stand to reason Winchester had the older style in inventory in 1903. The only difference between the 1 and the 2 is the large threaded disk and staff to accommodate. I like the look of the 2 on a long barreled gun. Use a Lyman 2D in “color to match” condition of gun. T/R
TR,
Thank you for the information and I too like the look of the no2 better. I was fairly certain the locking levers did not come about until later and your knowledge of the catalogues has now confirmed that.
I bought a sight on Ebay yesterday. The seller accepted a best offer and I believe I came out with a decent deal.
Only own one 1894, but it's a good one.
steve004 said
My recollection of these small group of 36 inch barreled Model 1894’s is that they all were all in either .32-40 or .38-55 only?
Steve,
I too have read the same but can not remember exactly where. I believe it may have been on another forum I found linked on a Google search. I also read, on another forum, that claimed the 30-30 Winchester round was originally a black powder round….. Pretty certain that not only was it not a black powder round it is actually known as America’s first smokeless small bore hunting round. Winchester designed the round just for the smokeless market.
Only own one 1894, but it's a good one.
Tiny19812003 said
Steve,
I too have read the same but can not remember exactly where. I believe it may have been on another forum I found linked on a Google search. I also read, on another forum, that claimed the 30-30 Winchester round was originally a black powder round….. Pretty certain that not only was it not a black powder round it is actually known as America’s first smokeless small bore hunting round. Winchester designed the round just for the smokeless market.
Unfortunately, there is a lot of bad information to be found when surfing the internet, and one must take most of it with a grain of salt.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Tiny
Here’s a repo swiss plate that you can polish and age to match your gun. It will be hard to find an original, yours being the sm variation, the ones on the SS is Lg, with long tang.
https://www.cparifles.com/products/winchester-small-swiss-buttplate?variant=19607109445
Congrats on finding that gem!
Clark
cj57 said
TinyHere’s a repo swiss plate that you can polish and age to match your gun. It will be hard to find an original, yours being the sm variation, the ones on the SS is Lg, with long tang.
https://www.cparifles.com/products/winchester-small-swiss-buttplate?variant=19607109445
Congrats on finding that gem!
Clark
Clark,
All three variations of the Swiss butt late are found on the Model 1885, with the “small” variety being the most common.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
And….. Done!!
I also finally ordered a hard copy of the Cody report.
Only own one 1894, but it's a good one.
I got the new Winchester Collector today and I noticed on page 24 Mark Yecha’s 1894 barrel length chart, “only one 36″ in 30 WCF.” I guess Tiny’s gun is a one of a kind. T/R
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