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martin rabeno said
Jeremy Did you get the photos and cody letter copy I emailed you?
Yes I did Martin thank you. Here are the photos martin wanted me to share. 
Jeremy Scott.
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martin rabeno said
Jeremy Did you get the photos and cody letter copy I emailed you?
Yes I did Martin thank you. Here are the photos martin wanted me to share.
Beautiful rifle. Letters with set trigger but clearly doesn’t have one. Perhaps a replacement receiver when it went back to the factory for repair in 1895? We’ll never know.
I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder
It would be nice to know what is meant by “rework” The tang is also stamped XXX It’s one of my favorite pieces in my collection
OK You had me thinking about the set trigger or lack of on my rifle. So naturally I had to go and check things out. Well I had a brain fart. The gun DOES have a set trigger Like the letter states. The brain fart part is I sent the wrong photo to Jeremy. That photo is my other 76 deluxe 45-75. My 50 actually has more case colors and better blue than the one in the posted photo I will try and get a picture of the correct one to him over the weekend Sorry about that
I just sent Jeremy the correct photos. Hopefully he will post them for you to see. Once again sorry for the mix up TGIF
martin rabeno said
I just sent Jeremy the correct photos. Hopefully he will post them for you to see. Once again sorry for the mix up TGIF
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Jeremy Scott.
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martin rabeno said
I just sent Jeremy the correct photos. Hopefully he will post them for you to see. Once again sorry for the mix up TGIF
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That makes sense! For what it’s worth, here is SN 29747, a close neighbor to SN 29753 in the current 1876 survey. It is a .45-60, 30 inch octagon barrel, set trigger, case hardened, with peep and Beach sights that letter. This is what collectors call a “semi-deluxe.”
I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder
condition on these 50 caliber 76’s seems to really drive up the price – this one went for almost double the low estimate – and then there is the juice.
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Nice pics, even enjoyed the bonus pic of the 45-75 with a hint of some spectacular wood! Good teamwork! I’m intrigued by the word “rework” but I suspect it originated with Mr. Porter, not the ledger.
Mike
Yeah. Who knows what reworked signifies. It could be anything from fix the trigger to total refinish. I would think if it was anything major it would be noted as such. But at least it’s a documented factory rework for whatever
TXGunNut said
Nice pics, even enjoyed the bonus pic of the 45-75 with a hint of some spectacular wood! Good teamwork! I’m intrigued by the word “rework” but I suspect it originated with Mr. Porter, not the ledger.
It would be interesting to see how a newly ordered Cody Letter for that serial number would read.
Typically something like this is simply noted as “R&R” meaning Return and Repair. It just depends on how it is written in the ledger and how the person at Cody interrupts the ledger when writing the Cody letter. All such repair order would of had a corresponding sheet that detailed what was to be done during the Return and Repair. It is a shame all the corresponding order forms are lost.
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That’s an interesting point with the letter. I will be at the Baltimore show this weekend with a table. I think I will go over and have them run the number for me while I am there. It would be interesting if there is any difference in the rework part
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martin rabeno said
That’s an interesting point with the letter. I will be at the Baltimore show this weekend with a table. I think I will go over and have them run the number for me while I am there. It would be interesting if there is any difference in the rework part
Take a copy of the old letter with you. Sometimes Jesi likes to see old letters after she has done a search.
Mike
good idea Mike I have it on my phone and will make it a point to show it to her
While on the subject of letters, the other 78 deluxe that I posted in error earlier, has an interesting description also. It letters among the other details a globe front but neglects to mention the tang sight which seems to be factory installed also to pair with the front sight.
martin rabeno said
While on the subject of letters, the other 78 deluxe that I posted in error earlier, has an interesting description also. It letters among the other details a globe front but neglects to mention the tang sight which seems to be factory installed also to pair with the front sight.
Not that uncommon of an occurrence. The fact that the ledger mentions any of the sights at all is uncommon.
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OK Now here is a dilemma and see if anyone can make any sense out of it. At the Baltimore show today I had Jessi run the serial number of my deluxe exp 29753 to see if there was any change or explanation as to the part saying returned for re-work , The letter is dated nov.3,1980 Signed by William L Porter. This description matches the physical features of the rifle.
Now here is where it gets weird, The serial number as was run today states 1876 45/60 oct, set, checkered stock pistol grip.
So now how the heck can the same serial number read so totally different on two official searches. I also checked the serial number on the rifle just to make certain it was recorded properly an it was Everyone seems to be at a loss. Jessi said at tha time they were using a totally different reference system back then but ??????
Can anyone shed any light of this ?
Back when Bill Porter was researching the records to write a factory letter, he was using the old black & white microfilm copy of the ledger records. Jesi is using a color scanned digital copy of the ledger book records to provide the researched information.
Now having said that, did you show the 1980 letter signed by Porter to Jesi? Did she show you the ledger records she was looking at?
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