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I have ser#190190 a 20″ short rifle with a 9 3/8 fore end  and ser#137757 a 22″ short rifle with the 9 3/8 fore end. And yes they are factory. The top one ser#497739 is 20″ s.r.c. with a double set trigger and s.g.b.20230316_102127.jpgImage Enlarger20230316_102140.jpgImage Enlarger20230316_103200.jpgImage Enlarger Cool

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My 20” with short forend. 

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cjs57 said
“If a factory 26-inch barrel was shortened to 20-inchs, the barrel contour would not look correct.  Additionally, the factory original 20-inch rife barrels had their own unique contour (muzzle diameter) in comparison to a cut don 26-inch barrel.”

Bert, Please publish the factory original Muzzle diameter for a 22″ and 24″ barrels so we can check our rifles. 

  

Your request is complicated by the fact there are 22 & 24 inch Extra Light Weight barrels, and 22 & 24 inch Short rifle barrels.

Gary and Don are better sources for the information you seek.

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Bert H. said

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“If a factory 26-inch barrel was shortened to 20-inchs, the barrel contour would not look correct.  Additionally, the factory original 20-inch rife barrels had their own unique contour (muzzle diameter) in comparison to a cut don 26-inch barrel.”

Bert, Please publish the factory original Muzzle diameter for a 22″ and 24″ barrels so we can check our rifles. 

  

Your request is complicated by the fact there are 22 & 24 inch Extra Light Weight barrels, and 22 & 24 inch Short rifle barrels.

Gary and Don are better sources for the information you seek.

  

cjs57 – Yes, I have some of this information, but I need to measure a few more of them and organize my file a bit. Give me a little time to get it all compiled and I’ll post what I have on this subject.  

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On the subject of muzzle diameters as they relate to ’94 short rifles, see below. For comparison, I have 26″ standard length and carbines shown as well. 

Not necessarily concrete, but just what I’ve taken time to measure from my collection. Some groups just have a few examples, others 1/2 dozen or better. I did not include standard 1/2 octagon barrels as they are obviously lighter (more like .680). For the ELWs, I did leave the 1/2 OB rifles in the average as they measure out the same. 

Of note, some of these rifles are in the letterable range, others not, but I believe they are all factory original configurations, or I would not still own them.

Second, there are (4) “long wood” specimens in the 22″ Std. section (three that letter). They do not measure out any heavier than the others in that category. Knowing that, it’s my opinion that “long wood” does not necessarily indicate a factory cut down. I still believe that may have happened on occasion, I just don’t own any that have long wood and a noticeably heavier muzzle. A 26″ std. weight barrel cut down to 20″ would be closer to .750. Although it doesn’t seem like that much difference, its usually noticeable without even measuring it.

Std. Wt. 26″ Avg Std. Wt. 24″ Avg Std. Wt. 22″ Avg Std. Wt. 20″ Avg
0.695 0.702 0.714 0.729
ELW Wt. 24″ Avg ELW Wt. 22″ Avg
0.564 0.573
Carb.
0.602

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