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Anthony said
Bert,

My apologies on the description of the rifle itself as it was explained to me. It’s a 20 inch Eastern carbine. With the standard carbine shotgun style smooth butt.

Anthony

That makes much better sense.

Thanks for the update.

Bert

Green River Gus said
Bert,

Model 1894 for your survey –

Ser# 624610

.38-55

26″ Round Barrel

Plain Trigger, Stock, and Forearm.

Crescent Buttplate

Thanks,

Gus

Thanks!

The s/n place the date of manufacture in October 1913.  

Bert

Roy H. said
Bert,

I have S/N 1,302,635. Interestingly the buttstock has the number 19 stamped in it.

Thanks,

Roy

Hello Roy,

Please excuse my very tardy reply to your message.

Can provide additional information?  Is your Model 94 a SRC, Eastern Carbine, Rifle, or a Take Down Rifle?

Bert

Pondoro said
I have an Eastern carbine with the Colonel Whelen grooved comb butt stock .

Serial number 874019

Caliber 30 WCF

Barrel is 20″ round

5/8(?) mag tube 12&1/2″ long with 9&1/8″forearm. 

Shotgun butt with 4&1/2″ checkered hard rubber putt plate with oval Winchester logo

No saddle ring

There is a machined groove on barrel bottom that would take the lip of the round top mag tube cap for a 1/2 mag tube. All 3 grooves on barrel bottom appear factory machined. The round top mag tube cap has screwdriver slot and the lip for fitting into the forward barrel groove. The mag cap screw extends through the cap and the mag tube nd fits in a shallow hole in the bottom of the barrel. There is a large E stamped under the upper tang.

George

Port Alberni, BC

  

Hello George,

Your Model 1894 is a special order “Eastern” Carbine with a ⅔ Magazine. It was manufactured in February 1918.

Bert

Pondoro said
Bert, thank you for that information. I want add that I also have a Model 1892 SRC with a shotgun butt and a 3/4 mag that has the same “1/2 MAG” stamp on the receiver end of the forearm wood as does this Model 1892. See photo. It leads me to think that Winchester used this stamp on all Model 1892 and 1894 carbine forearms for guns that had fractional mag tubes. I read elsewhere that fractional mag tube forearms had a different slope to the mag tube cut out because of the different angle as compared to normal carbine forearms. Do you have any comments?

  

No, I do not.  I have not closely examined the forend stocks on the Model 1894 Carbines.

Bert

sixvolt said
Bert,

This is my first Winchester. I purchased it at a local store in the Boston area in 2023. I believe this is what is referred to as an “Eastern Carbine”. According to this site’s Resources page, it was manufactured in 1915. It is in like-new condition and is a fantastic shooter, though that barrel gets hot!

• • Serial Number: 776305

• • Caliber: 30 WCF

• • Magazine Tube: ⅔ length (holds 5 rounds of 30-30)

• • Stock: I assume this is the flat plate shotgun style butt stock

• • Barrel: 20″ round

• • Saddle Ring: No

• • Sights: It came to me with a rear peep (aperture) sight. I believe it is a “Redfield No. 70 Micrometer Receiver Sight” with “hunter knobs”. I can ring steel at 200 yards and I never touched the sight adjustments. The front sight has a removable hood. I heard a Redfield sight like this was a special order option from Winchester. Or, do you think it was added by a previous owner? 

As a new guest user, I cannot upload photos directly. You can view some here: <a href="“>Winchester 1894 Photos

-Sixvolt

Unfortunately, none of what follows is good (or positive) news about your Model 1894.

What you have is a “Frankenchester”… a Winchester assembled from the parts of many other donor guns.

Specifically, the receiver frame (action) was manufactured in the year 1915, and it most likely was originally a standard Sporting Rifle (which is why it does not have a provision for a saddle ring).  The reason it looks like it is in “like new” condition is because it has been completely refinished (reblued).

The barrel is from a post-1932 production but pre-1951 Carbine.  It will have a 2-digit year number stamped on the bottom in the concave part of the barrel next to the receiver frame.

The butt stock & checkered steel butt plate are from a post-1945 production but pre-1947 Carbine.

The serrated hammer is from a post-1946 Model 94.

Winchester did not drill & tap any Model 1894 receiver frames for a Redfield, Lyman, or Williams receiver mounted peep sight.

The Redfield sight on your Model 1894 is a post-1940 production No. 70.

Bert