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1894 rifle for Bert's survey
August 22, 2019
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Mlawrenceconstruction@gmail.com said
I think you are correct on the magazine, it is 7 1/4″ from the end of the barrel to the magazine. for #585417

The 30 wfc on 470371 is at the 12 o’clock position.  I believe the barrel is earlier than the rifle due to that and the lack of proof stamp at the 12 o’clock pos.  Looks to have been that way for a while based on finish wear which looks as it should but who knows.

I will get pics.

857288 is gum wood 

585417 is hard to tell the wood is so dark (looks black from across the room) Im pretty sure its walnut but Ill have to pull the butt plate to confirm.  

It apears that it is a replacement barrel (from an older Model 1894).  All Sporting Rifles were stocked with walnut, whereas the Carbines were stocked with gumwood from the early 1900s through the mid 1920s.

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Hi,

I have a Model 1894 chambered in 32-40. The Serial number is 3259. Is this information you are looking for.

Interesting note, this serial matches my Model 56, what are the chances.

Thank you,

Daniel

September 12, 2019
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Hi,

I have a Model 1894 chambered in 32-40. The Serial number is 3259. Is this information you are looking for.

Interesting note, this serial matches my Model 56, what are the chances.

Thank you,

Daniel  

Is your Model 1894 a Sporting Rifle, or a Saddle Ring Carbine?  If it is a Rifle, does it have an octagon barrel, or a round barrel?  Magazine tube length?  If you can, please send me pictures of it.

Bert – Win1885@msn.com

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September 12, 2019
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Hi Bert,

Here is a picture of my rifle:

Type:   Rifle

Caliber:  32-40

Barrel:   Octagon

Barrel length:  26″, Trigger: Plain

I have a Cody Letter –

Serial Number applied on February 25, 895

Received in warehouse on March 23, 1895

Shipped from warehouse on April 04, 1896, Order number 8736

I hope this helps,

Thank You,

Daniel

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Here is the photoWinchester-Model-1894-m.jpgImage Enlarger

September 13, 2019
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Not to knock your gun, but your Model 1894 appears to be reblued.  Just so you are aware of this.

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Daniel,

Thank you very much… the information you provided answer all of my survey questions.

Bert

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Yes, I am aware the rifle has been re-blued, unfortunate but it’s just part of the story the rifle has to  tell. 

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I have recently bought a 1894 32-40 OB pistol grip with serial number 359425.  Just wanted it in your survey.  It has a 26 inch barrel with full length magazine.   

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I have recently bought a 1894 32-40 OB pistol grip with serial number 359425.  Just wanted it in your survey.  It has a 26 inch barrel with full length magazine.     

Plain or fancy pistol grip?  Checkered stocks?   If the stocks are checkered, which pattern (H or I)?  Standard crescent steel butt plate?

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Bert

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April 11, 2020
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Mr. Bert,

     This sporting rifle has a plain pistol grip stock with a standard crescent steel butt plate.  There is no checkering on the stocks.  Thank you sir.     

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Mr. Bert,

     This sporting rifle has a plain pistol grip stock with a standard crescent steel butt plate.  There is no checkering on the stocks.  Thank you sir.       

Thank you.  I have entered your semi-deluxe Sporting Rifle into the survey.

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Bert;

I have a Winchester Model 94 S/N 1718833 to add to your survey. It is a 25-35 Win caliber made in 1950. A standard carbine in 98% condition. Thank you for all your work in this area.   RR

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Bert;

I have a Winchester Model 94 S/N 1718833 to add to your survey. It is a 25-35 Win caliber made in 1950. A standard carbine in 98% condition. Thank you for all your work in this area.   RR  

Hello RR,

Your Carbine is now added to the survey.  Interestingly, it is right in the middle of what appears to have been a large batch of Model 94 Carbines made in the 25-35 WIN. caliber;  The table below is a sequential listing surveyed Model 94 Carbines, and as you will see, from serial number 1717518 – 1721540, the majority of them are 25-35 WINs.

1717518 94 25-35 WIN.
1717535 94 32 WIN. SPL.
1717586 94 25-35 WIN.
1717590 94 30-30 WIN.
1717677 94 25-35 WIN.
1717678 94 25-35 WIN.
1717918 94 25-35 WIN.
1717946 94 30-30 WIN.
1718072 94 25-35 WIN.
1718126 94 30-30 WIN.
1718598 94 25-35 WIN.
1718833 94 25-35 WIN.
1718836 94 25-35 WIN.
1718871 94 30-30 WIN.
1718893 94 25-35 WIN.
1718965 94 25-35 WIN.
1719145 94 30-30 WIN.
1719197 94 25-35 WIN.
1719261 94 32 WIN. SPL.
1719417 94 32 WIN. SPL.
1719605 94 30-30 WIN.
1719735 94 30-30 WIN.
1719800 94 30-30 WIN.
1720025 94 30-30 WIN.
1720082 94 30-30 WIN.
1720466 94 32 WIN. SPL.
1720485 94 25-35 WIN.
1720511 94 30-30 WIN.
1720722 94 32 WIN. SPL.
1720733 94 25-35 WIN.
1720757 94 32 WIN. SPL.
1720797 94 30-30 WIN.
1720812 94 25-35 WIN.
1720887 94 25-35 WIN.
1721077 94 25-35 WIN.
1721084 94 25-35 WIN.
1721117 94 25-35 WIN.
1721313 94 25-35 WIN.
1721422 94 30-30 WIN.
1721464 94 25-35 WIN.
1721511 94 25-35 WIN.
1721540 94 25-35 WIN.

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Bert,

I just bought a nice 1894 First Model sn 1124, round barrel, full mag, crescent butt.

Not sure if you have this one or not in your survey.

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Al,

That is a very nice looking First Model!  I did not have this serial number in the survey, so it is a new entry, and it brings the total to (221) verified First Model serial numbers.

Thanks,

Bert

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