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Nice looking 1st model there Al , and a round barrel at that, I haven’t seen many with a round bbl. . Is it a ’94 made date. 38-55?
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Henry Mero said
Nice looking 1st model there Al , and a round barrel at that, I haven’t seen many with a round bbl. . Is it a ’94 made date. 38-55?
It was serialized in December 1894, and probably fully assembled in early 1895. Hopefully Al contacts the CFM for a letter on it.
Bert
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Thanks Harry, yes 38-55. Bert, I just contacted CFM this morning and ordered a record search. I’ll let you know what it says when I receive it.
Al
Cool, I have #817 #applied nov21, 1894. I wonder how many round barrel 1st models were made compared to oct. bbls.
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Henry Mero said
Cool, I have #817 #applied nov21, 1894. I wonder how many round barrel 1st models were made compared to oct. bbls.
Henry,
Of the (218) First Models I have verified thus far, (37) of them have round barrels. The really rare barrel contour is the (1) First Model with a ½ Octagon barrel.
Bert
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Bert,
I received the record check from CFM for my First model sn 1124. Serial number applied December 10, 1894, Received in the Warehouse December 28, 1894.
Shipped August 02, 1895. So it looks like this was fully assembled in 1894.
Thanks Al… another fully documented First Model for the survey!
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Bert,
Is it rare to have a first model where the serial number was applied, and rifle received in the warehouse in 1894?
thanks,
Al
Hi Bert,
Not sure what you are looking for in your 1894 survey but I’ve got a 38-55 take down model with SN in the 9000 range, octagon 20″ barrel. Does it fit the parameters of your search?
Scott
tionesta1 said
Bert,Is it rare to have a first model where the serial number was applied, and rifle received in the warehouse in 1894?
thanks,
Al
Al,
There were just 1,674 Model 1894 receivers serialized in the year 1894, and approximately just 1,100 of them were actually fully assembled in that year. Any Model 1894 that letters as being received in the warehouse in the year 1894 is relatively rare. That stated, the majority of the Model 1894s that were manufactured in the year 1894 were First Models.
Currently I have (192) verified serial numbers in the survey that were serialized in 1894. Of that number, (154) are First Models, and (38) are Second Models (a mix of 38-55 and 32-40). Of the (192), at least (39) of them were not received in the warehouse until 1895.
Bert
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Pdog73 said
Hi Bert,Not sure what you are looking for in your 1894 survey but I’ve got a 38-55 take down model with SN in the 9000 range, octagon 20″ barrel. Does it fit the parameters of your search?
Scott
Hello Scott,
No it does not. Though it does fit in the “Short Rifle:” survey that Pdog72 (Gary White) is conducting. My survey for the First Models covers the serial range 1 – 7999. I am attempting to find as many of the first 7,999 Model 1894s manufactured.
Bert
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Bert H. said
Al,
There were just 1,674 Model 1894 receivers serialized in the year 1894, and approximately just 1,100 of them were actually fully assembled in that year. Any Model 1894 that letters as being received in the warehouse in the year 1894 is relatively rare. That stated, the majority of the Model 1894s that were manufactured in the year 1894 were First Models.
Currently I have (192) verified serial numbers in the survey that were serialized in 1894. Of that number, (154) are First Models, and (38) are Second Models (a mix of 38-55 and 32-40). Of the (192), at least (39) of them were not received in the warehouse until 1895.
Bert
Thanks for the information Bert. Very interesting.
Al
Thanks Bill… both were new entries.
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Bill Hanzel said
https://auctions.thegunrunner.com/lots/view/1-4W87Q9/winchester-model-94-30-30-cal-lever-action-carbine-20-barrel-1965
Bill,
That carbine is outside of my survey range… the last pre-1964 was S/N 2600011.
Bert
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Thanks Bill… it was a new entry.
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