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October 16, 2017
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     Thank yall for educating me on these rifles.  I mainly collect the M94 and slide action 22's.  I'm getting into the .22 bolt actions and have lots to learn.  I looked at my rifle and it has 6 land and grooves.  I kinda thought that's what JWA was talking about but was not sure.  I still have lots to learn about collecting and the lingo.  I'm trying to get pictures up on the site so yall can see them.  I ran into a 1904 today at a show.  The stock was in bad shape but the rest of the rifle, blueing, looked decent.  He wanted 350.00 but I did not buy it.  I just don't know if there collectable or not.  I never hear that rifle talked about.  Thanks for the info. everyone.         

M1900, M1902, and M1904 all have quite a collector following. The calibers differ on some . 22 S, 22 L, or 22 XL. There are a few differences in these Boys rifles. Crescent stocks, or composition shotgun type. The M1900 is the hardest one to acquire in tip top shape along with the elusive Thumb Trigger. These rifles were very cheap, around $4 and not much care was given them. Stocks are usually cracked, the bores look like stovepipes, and they are usually devoid of bluing. There are lots of the M1904 model out there for sale. The M1900 and Thumb Trigger are the hardest to find in any condition and the Thumb Trigger is the most valuable. Collecting 22 variations can be a lifetime project. Just ask JWA. Buy them now, before they get real hot, Buy the best you can afford, and never,never, buy junk guns.   Big LarryDSCF0604.JPGImage Enlarger

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October 17, 2017
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     Thanks for the info.  Looking at your pics tells me the 1904 I was looking at was not in that good of shape.  Like I said earlier the stock is beat up pretty bad.  I think it is not far from junk.  I'm going to keep huntin.  Thanks again

October 17, 2017
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     By the way I'm going to go buy that 72.  Ill probably get it for 225.00.  Ill get pics up of it.

October 17, 2017
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     By the way I'm going to go buy that 72.  Ill probably get it for 225.00.  Ill get pics up of it.  

THIEF !!!!!!    I would buy all I could get for $225, if they were in good shape.   Big Larry

October 17, 2017
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I have to agree with Larry on buying junk guns. A bad gun never gets any better. The only exception is the one you've never seen before. I bought a basket case 1902 in short and long with the metal butt plate. They were only made the first two years of production and the only one I've ever seen. Will be a winters project to see if I can bring it back to life. No bluing, stock is held together with blue painters tape but the bore is in surprisingly good shape. For a $110 shipped I'll take a chance. Jay

October 17, 2017
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     By the way I'm going to go buy that 72.  Ill probably get it for 225.00.  Ill get pics up of it.  

Hope it's still there when you go back for it. What's the name of that shop? 😉

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October 18, 2017
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      The shop is called Adelbridge in San Antonio TX.  They have a webpage that is ok but doesn't have all there inventory on it.  I'm trying to get close-up pics of the 69A posted so JWA can look at them.  Ill keep trying.  Yes the 72 looks like this 69A that I have posted pics of. 

October 18, 2017
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Here are 4 close-up pics of the 69A for yall too look at.  I'm just curious if yall think its reblued.  I think it has been reblued.69A-1.jpgImage Enlarger69A-2.jpgImage Enlarger69A-3.jpgImage Enlarger69A-4.jpgImage Enlarger

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Yes, it has been reblued.

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October 18, 2017
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Real hard to tell by the pics. I would defer to Bert or JWA on this. IMHO, a reblued rifle would not be worth 1/2 the amount of a nice clean one. Lets hope for better news.   Big Larry

October 18, 2017
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It does appear to have been reblued to me.

Thanks for the additional pictures.

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October 18, 2017
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There you have it from 2 experts. Very hard to tell with pics. I would reserve my judgement on it to actually handling it in person. Big Larry

October 18, 2017
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     Well you win some and you lose some.  This will teach me to start looking to see if a rifle is reblued or not.  I never even thought about it when I bought it because the rifle is not that old.  Of course I have only been collecting for 2 1/2 years.  Thank goodness I did not give much for it.  I think about that cause I'm an ole country boy grew up on a large ranch here in Texas.  I wish someone would have introduced me into collecting years ago.  Of course all I ever have done was work on the ranch and never got out and about much growing up.  They have another 69A with the sling that looks original, beings it looks aged, but with regular front and rear sights.  The gun is for s, l, and lr and the stock is not short and blunted like the one I bought.  I think it is a post-war because of the stock being longer and more tapered?  They want 399.00 for the gun and can probably walk with it for 375.00.  I bought the 72 today and will post pics when I can.  Got it for 225.00.  It is a 72 and not a 72A and in very good shape.     

October 19, 2017
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72-1.jpgImage Enlarger72-2.jpgImage Enlarger72-3.jpgImage Enlarger72-4.jpgImage Enlarger72-7.jpgImage Enlarger72-8-1.jpgImage Enlarger72-9.jpgImage EnlargerThis is the 72 I bought today.  Hope I did better with this one than the last.  I paid 225.00.

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That one you did VERY well on.  Whatever money you deferred on the 69A you just made up with the 72.  Congrats!

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I totally agree. You got a $500 rifle cheap. Just remember, the Gun Police are after you now, and know your name. Take the reblued M69-A to a gun show and at least get your $$$ back. A reblued gun has very little value, none to a collector. Sell it and buy another. Firm advice.   Big Larry

October 19, 2017
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     Thanks yall.  I feel better now.  I think Ill just keep the 69 cause I went and shot it and its very accurate.  The collector value is gone but its still fun too shoot.  What do yall think about the other 69A that's there for 399.00?  Can probably walk with it for 375.00.  This time Ill check for reblueing.  The gun had the straight bolt, original sling, and in really nice shape.  I described the rifle in more detail in an earlier post, I think yesterday.  Mr. Big Larry already said its a good deal.  I have one more question.  Sorry for all the questions but I'm learning here.  What queued yall to it being reblued other than the color?  I have my ideas but want to hear from yall.  Thanks again for the advice.  

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     Thanks yall.  I feel better now.  I think Ill just keep the 69 cause I went and shot it and its very accurate.  The collector value is gone but its still fun too shoot.  What do yall think about the other 69A that's there for 399.00?  Can probably walk with it for 375.00.  This time Ill check for reblueing.  The gun had the straight bolt, original sling, and in really nice shape.  I described the rifle in more detail in an earlier post, I think yesterday.  Mr. Big Larry already said its a good deal.  I have one more question.  Sorry for all the questions but I'm learning here.  What queued yall to it being reblued other than the color?  I have my ideas but want to hear from yall.  Thanks again for the advice.    

The only 69A's that came standard with a factory sling and swivels were the Match and Target rifles.  Many, many 69A's had slings added after purchase which hurts the collector value.  If it has the blunt nose (pre-war) stock that adds some value but if the swivels have been added it is NOT worth $375.

A picture of the swivels and the hooks and keepers on the sling will help to determine if they are Winchester or aftermarket.

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Nice 72, looks like the one I picked up recently except a whole lot nicer. Congrats!

 

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     Thanks Mike.  Mr. JWA Ill get some pics. of the rifle and post them.  Thanks

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