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My 1891 '86 in 45/70
August 26, 2013
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Hedley Lamarr said
I'm a rank novice at this kind of stuff, but I thought this was a decent looking restoration by Rogers I noticed awhile back. Looks like it was a lot of work.
http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/winchester-1876-deluxe-rifle-rogers-restoration-case-colored-checkered-3x-wood-antique-pre-1898-guns.htm

The colors are great!

August 26, 2013
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I would have to agree with the rest, the CC dont look factory original to me from what I can see in the photos. The tip off is the predominance of the browns and blues. You see a lot of these at the shows that have been recased and they take a burlap sack or cloth or other means and muted the CC to where they are 20-40% making it easier to pass them off as original to an untrained eye. The barrel blue is close to the color but it doesnt have the deep mirror finish I would expect. But all in all, its still a fine looking rifle, nice job whoever did it.

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August 26, 2013
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August 27, 2013
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I see it now. That is why I like these sites. I have not spent much time with Winchesters (or any other real old levers) and like to learn as much as possible. I knew it was a redo but thought it was pretty tasteful myself. The description of the colors makes more sense to me now. I just could not put my finger on the blue thought but never considered the actual "tone" of the color.

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Real blue when you look at it will almost look three dimensional, like you can see down into it.

Originally case colored Winchester were clear coated to protect and to brighten the color.

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August 27, 2013
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I think I see what you are saying about the case colors Bob.

One of the little things that jump out at me on the Merz 1873 and the 1886 Maverick posted are the screw heads. To me most of them look very authentic, especially those on the forearm cap on the 1873, at least to my eyes. You would really have to know your stuff to replicate that in my opinion.

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Most modern case coloring will not have enough yellows and reds. There is always more purples in blues in the modern stuff.

There really hasn't been anyone that can duplicate Winchester's Colors correctly. Its truly a lost art. Some restorers come close but they are usually missing some piece of the formula.

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When all is said and done, that is a beautifully done restoration.

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Do you plan on shooting the gun at all? I apologize if I missed that earlier in the post. I'm doing some handloading tonight for my 1886 33 WCF and have to review my notes from last year. Made me think of your gun and Win38-55's.

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Hedley

Not sure yet, I actually took it out a few weekends ago but did not shoot it. I have one in the exact same configuration that was my great great grandfathers. That one was shipped in 1899. It was rebored in the 50's or 60's to 45/70 from 40/65. Solid condition but an old reblue. That one I shoot and actually took a doe with it a few years ago. I too handload. I use a 365 grain lead GC bullet over SR 4759. Nice light and accurate.

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Thanks guys for posting that info on what true CC should look like - wrt the lighter colors. Very informative and good learning for some of us "younger" fella! Though I knew some CC just didn't look "right" when I saw it, I now know why.

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