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Hello all,
UGH…. apparently the iPod did not capture my entire post…. so here it is!
I’ve always eye’d the m92 and m94s and it has been a long time since I was involved with guns (kids, family, work etc)… so now I have taken the plunge into the slippery slope of Winchesters. Saw a m94 at the SOS show in Louisville and fell in love with it. Didn’t get it (missed out) but have since purchased a 1924 dated m94 in 30wcf, which should be here this week.
The gun is stated to be 75% finish remaining and the wood looks good and solid with no cracks, chips etc. I tend to be very OCD and a purist and I want to do the best that I can do to preserve and return this gun to the best possible condition without destroying any of the historical or collectibility of it..
First question is concerning the wood. I’ve read most of the threads here (awesome posts, thanks!!) but still have a couple questions. When you guys work on the wood, do you disassemble the rifle or try to work on it in place? Another collector told me to use low odor mineral spirits on the wood first to pull any grease or oils out of it and then use a linseed oil mix (50/50 mineral spirits and linseed oil). I’ve since seen the post regarding the Winchester Stock Oil on ebay (he is out of the 4oz bottles btw) and will order that.
Second question is regarding protecting the metal, what do you guys suggest? I’ve read the post about Eezox and could order that, just wanted to get your feedback.
I’m starting from scratch so I need to build up everything. Being so, what other necessities can you guys suggest (your shopping cart, my cash 
I’ve seen ramrods and then the bore snakes (didn’t have those when I had guns 20 yrs ago) etc
The bug has bitten bad, I’m already eyeing a m92…..
Cheers and thanks!
Mark
Hi Mark
As far as necessities go, I think a large set of hollow ground screw drivers/bits that fit perfectly into the screws on your rifle is a great start. I like a coated one piece rod for bore cleaning and use a bore guide. If you are removing stocks remember that their sharp edges can be splintered easily when not reinforced or protected by the rest of the rifle.
There are many nice rifles out there that have had most of the damage done to them by poor cleaning attempts or other work poorly executed. I think just about every collector wishes they could have a moment or two back in their collecting life where they weren’t as careful as they could have been.
Brad
Mark,
Welcome to the Winchester Collector. You should post some good pictures once you get it before you try refinishing any wood. If the guns 75% condition, you may not want to touch the wood. Once you refinish the wood, it looses its original look. Now it could of been redone already but that is what the pictures might show.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
Thanks guys!
I will post pics before I do anything. I have the ones form the seller… but they are not that great. 
Cheers and thanks!
Mark
I wouldnt do anything to the carbine. Leave the wood just as it is.
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Here is a link regarding screwdriver sets for Winchesters:
1892takedown @sbcglobal.net ......NRA Endowment Life Member.....WACA Member
"God is great.....beer is good.....and people are crazy"... Billy Currington
Thanks 1892….question though, doesn’t the wood need some sort of protection or treatment to preserve it and keep it from cracking etc?
Sorry for the double posts.. still trying to get a handle on the way this forum works….
Thanks 1892… however, doesn’t the wood require some sort of cleaning, preserving? Does it get brittle without some sort or preservation after use?
I didn’t mean to make it sound like I wanted to refinish it, but rather treat it to clean and protect.
Cheers
Mark
Mark,
If the gun is stored in a good climate it does not need anything done to it. Looking at the pictures the wood has a nice appearance and matches the condition of the metal. Adding any stock oil or linseed oil to it would change its appearance and make it look refinished.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
How about Rennessaince Wax on the wood ?. I know there are current threads about its use on metal. One test shows it to be less effective than I would have thought.
I think it may be good on the wood. When I rub it in a bit , it seems to get out surface dirt as evidenced on the cotton cloth. It may remove a bit of stain too ? I wonder if it locks in /or adds a bit of moisture into the wood ?. I dont know much about wood or treatments , but the Wax seems to give a pleasing appearance. Does anyone see a negative side of applying wax to wood ?
Phil
I can see waxing a stock on a high condition gun. It will make it look like its got better finish but it will not help with moisture. The only way to control moisture in wood is the environment you keep it in. Waxing a stock on a mid level gun will make it look better but will it make the wood stand out as now being too good for the gun.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
From the pictures, does it appear that the rifle still has the proper Winchester color to the wood?
Mark,
The wood has good color and looks like it belongs on the gun, the only thing I see is it has oil wicking darkening the wood from the metal. You can’t do much about removing oil wicking except don’t overly oil the gun.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
If it were my carbine I wouldn’t do a thing the either the wood or metal. Looks fine as it is. If anything, I might wipe it down occasionally with a light coat of Snake Oil and either shoot it or put it back on the wall.
It looks as good as it is going to get just the way it is and any fooling around with the finish will diminish the look/value IMHO.
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I agree with what these guys are saying too Mark. It looks like a nice carbine the way it is.
Brad
Mark,
It looks great, don’t mess with it.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
I agree. Your carbine looks like an honest, unmessed-with carbine that, in my opinion, is very attractive just the way it is. There is certainly no harm in putting a coat of Conservator’s Wax on both the wood and metal. The wax does wear off, so it does need to be redone from time to time, but it will in no way harm the value of the rifle and, if the wood looks too good, simply let the wax wear off.
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