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I hope that this is the correct forum for this, as the others did not seem quite appropriate. I am a journalist writing a series of pieces about the Hawaiian counterrevolution of 1895 and am seeking information and access to any and all Winchester 1873 models whose known origin is Hawaii and especially those which are inscribed ‘C.G.H’.
Any and all info – but especially serial numbers and the stories of how you came to own them – is greatly appreciated! And if there is by chance a collector in Honolulu who’d be willing to allow me to examine and photograph their models, I would be extremely grateful.
Again, I apologize if this is not quite the forum – I know how annoying a newbie like me can be, and I appreciate any help that you all may offer.
Mahalo nui
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paniolonaz said
Aloha
I hope that this is the correct forum for this, as the others did not seem quite appropriate. I am a journalist writing a series of pieces about the Hawaiian counterrevolution of 1895 and am seeking information and access to any and all Winchester 1873 models whose known origin is Hawaii and especially those which are inscribed ‘C.G.H’.
Any and all info – but especially serial numbers and the stories of how you came to own them – is greatly appreciated! And if there is by chance a collector in Honolulu who’d be willing to allow me to examine and photograph their models, I would be extremely grateful.
Again, I apologize if this is not quite the forum – I know how annoying a newbie like me can be, and I appreciate any help that you all may offer.
Mahalo nui
In addition to the Model 1873, the Hawaiian Guard also had Winchester Model 1876 Lever-action repeaters and Winchester Single Shot Muskets in their inventory.
Bert
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Bert H. said
paniolonaz said
Aloha
I hope that this is the correct forum for this, as the others did not seem quite appropriate. I am a journalist writing a series of pieces about the Hawaiian counterrevolution of 1895 and am seeking information and access to any and all Winchester 1873 models whose known origin is Hawaii and especially those which are inscribed ‘C.G.H’.
Any and all info – but especially serial numbers and the stories of how you came to own them – is greatly appreciated! And if there is by chance a collector in Honolulu who’d be willing to allow me to examine and photograph their models, I would be extremely grateful.
Again, I apologize if this is not quite the forum – I know how annoying a newbie like me can be, and I appreciate any help that you all may offer.
Mahalo nui
In addition to the Model 1873, the Hawaiian Guard also had Winchester Model 1876 Lever-action repeaters and Winchester Single Shot Muskets in their inventory.
Bert
Hey Bert!
Thanks for getting back to me, yeah I’ve been looking through their rosters and rifle distribution documents. I’m searching for the Winchester 1873’s because those were the ones recorded to have been used by both rebels and CGH at the time of the counterrevolution. Trying to track those rifles to the present day as best I can
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A member posted this link a while ago HCG Records Accessed Iolani Palace July 27, 2022. Apologies as I did not note who it was.
There is a lot of information and a great effort uploaing it all.
HCG Records Accessed Iolani Palace July 27, 2022 – Google Photos
Chris
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May 2, 2009
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I have three 73’s that are noted to the CGH in my research. Serial 372665, 395918 and 431661 that are 44 caliber carbines and the last one has a set trigger. I remember seeing the ledgers on the CGH guns a while back. I checked 431661 and its on the page I’ve attached. The issue with me using the list is I would have to letter all the guns marked as 44 caliber because I don’t want to use them in my survey if I assume they all are carbines. The only other Winchester they could be are 92’s but in that serial range they were made in 1907 or later after the ledger was written. Then there are some early serial numbers that would be first model 73’s or could be 92’s and could of been used .
Bob
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I have three 73’s that are noted to the CGH in my research. Serial 372665, 395918 and 431661 that are 44 caliber carbines and the last one has a set trigger. I remember seeing the ledgers on the CGH guns a while back. I checked 431661 and its on the page I’ve attached. The issue with me using the list is I would have to letter all the guns marked as 44 caliber because I don’t want to use them in my survey if I assume they all are carbines. The only other Winchester they could be are 92’s but in that serial range they were made in 1907 or later after the ledger was written. Then there are some early serial numbers that would be first model 73’s or could be 92’s and could of been used .
Bob
Have you ever come across or heard of any Model 1892s that are C.G.H. marked?
I haven’t. But that doesn’t mean anything.
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I’m not the right guy to ask about 92’s but I haven’t seen one. I checked my Springfield research and the only 92’s in there are from the US Atlanta Prison and there was 94’s used for the Hawaii board of Ag & Forestry.
Bob
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Not sure if this has been seen or not yet. By clicking on the Reddit post, and the couple images in the post, you can see a Winchester Cody letter, and some more info. A second click of the image seems to take away the obscuring ad that seems to like to pop up, at least for me, it does.
128-year old Citizens Guard Hawaii Winchester 1873
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There’s a lot of other history involving the Hawaiian Marine Guard and such, and a model 1876 Musket, that collectors in Houston had, along with some other firearms mentioned, but no 1873’s that I remember.
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Hey all, wow this is great stuff! I’m particularly interested in the 1873’s as those are the ones that the rebels used. When they lost, their rifles were claimed and redistributed among the CGH, and so I’m trying to track as many of those as I can get my hands on. Just curious, does anybody own a 73 CGH that they’d be willing to send some photos of or if they’re in Honolulu, let me come and visit? Thanks a bunch!
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I started to cross check the serials of the Winchester 44’s to my survey to see if I get a hit on one I have info on. I had serial 28311 and its a rifle with a extra heavy 30″ barrel. That does not sound like a gun you would issue unless you didn’t have any ammo and used it to beat the enemy. I have seen in the list low serial numbers that would fall into the first model 73’s that say they are 38 and 32 calibers. I believe all the low serial number Winchesters in 44 are 92’s
Bob
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I started to cross check the serials of the Winchester 44’s to my survey to see if I get a hit on one I have info on. I had serial 28311 and its a rifle with a extra heavy 30″ barrel. That does not sound like a gun you would issue unless you didn’t have any ammo and used it to beat the enemy. I have seen in the list low serial numbers that would fall into the first model 73’s that say they are 38 and 32 calibers. I believe all the low serial number Winchesters in 44 are 92’s
Bob
Bob,
I did some checking, and all of the low serial numbered 44’s on the page you posted are indeed Model 1892 44 Caliber Carbines, and they are all on the same order number #7619.
Do you have copies of any additional pages with serial numbers and calibers?
Bert
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May 2, 2009
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Bert,
Yes I do, I’m in the process of making a condensed list of serial numbers from all the pictures of the ledger pictures. Its a little hard reading stuff that is sideways. I’ll send you the list when I finish.
Bob
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1873man said
Bert,
Yes I do, I’m in the process of making a condensed list of serial numbers from all the pictures of the ledger pictures. Its a little hard reading stuff that is sideways. I’ll send you the list when I finish.
Bob
Bob,
Please also send them to me so that I can check them against the rifles that I have found for my survey of the 1892’s.
Michael
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1873man said
Bert,
Yes I do, I’m in the process of making a condensed list of serial numbers from all the pictures of the ledger pictures. Its a little hard reading stuff that is sideways. I’ll send you the list when I finish.
Bob
Thanks,
I sent you a PM and email with additional information.
Bert
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I got though the link from Chris and got 70 73’s serial numbers of which I had 5 of them. One was the 372665 that was the subject of the guy that made the Reddit post in the link that Tony posted but I got in once to see the pictures but got beat back with popups and ad’s if I turned off my Ad Blocker.
Bob
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I spent a fair amount of time looking at dozens of the picture files of the records and downloaded more than 20 of the picture files. Based On what I have seen thus far, the Hawaiian Civil Home Guard purchased many hundreds of Models 1873, 1876, Hotchkiss, Single Shot, 1886, and 1892 rifles, muskets, and carbines. I will eventually create an Excel spreadsheet with each of the models, calibers, and the associated serial numbers where shown.
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Bert H. said
I spent a fair amount of time looking at dozens of the picture files of the records and downloaded more than 20 of the picture files. Based On what I have seen thus far, the Hawaiian Civil Home Guard purchased many hundreds of Models 1873, 1876, Hotchkiss, Single Shot, 1886, and 1892 rifles, muskets, and carbines. I will eventually create an Excel spreadsheet with each of the models, calibers, and the associated serial numbers where shown.
Bert
Bert H. said
I spent a fair amount of time looking at dozens of the picture files of the records and downloaded more than 20 of the picture files. Based On what I have seen thus far, the Hawaiian Civil Home Guard purchased many hundreds of Models 1873, 1876, Hotchkiss, Single Shot, 1886, and 1892 rifles, muskets, and carbines. I will eventually create an Excel spreadsheet with each of the models, calibers, and the associated serial numbers where shown.
Bert
Fantastic! I am glad you blokes found it useful! The credit belongs to the person that uploaded all of the pictures! Invaluable information for us collectors
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Bert H. said
I spent a fair amount of time looking at dozens of the picture files of the records and downloaded more than 20 of the picture files. Based On what I have seen thus far, the Hawaiian Civil Home Guard purchased many hundreds of Models 1873, 1876, Hotchkiss, Single Shot, 1886, and 1892 rifles, muskets, and carbines. I will eventually create an Excel spreadsheet with each of the models, calibers, and the associated serial numbers where shown.
Bert
I can do the 1892’s. But it will be in a week or so after a quick trip to the Dolomite mountains in Italy!
Michael
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May 2, 2009
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I got through the three books and found guns that must of been turned back in and reissued. I had many guns show up multiple times with a few new ones showing up. I also found a hand full called Rebel Carbine that could be Winchesters from the serial were in the range of other Winchester.
Bob
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I am certainly willing to collaborate with anyone (Michael, Bob, and anyone else) that is willing to help parse through all of those digital photos and create a database of Winchester serial numbers and associated calibers. I have a partial listing (that I created many years ago) that has two different batches of 45-70 caliber Single Shot (high-wall) Muskets that are known to have been in the CHG inventory. It would be great if we collectively can create a composite list of all the Winchesters listed in the Hawaiian CHG inventory records.
This is a partial list that I have in my research records;
Winchester Single Shot Hawaiian Guard 45-70 caliber Muskets shipped on 5/1/1888 to Order # 6559 (40 total)
Serial #
24395
24501
24502
24506
24507
24508
24509
24510
24512
24513
24515
24516
24517
24518
24520
24522
24523
24525
24526
24528
24530
24531
24534
24535
24537
24538
24539
24540
24541
24543
24547
24549
24550
24552
24554
24555
24556
24557
24559
24560
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