Here’s the link:
I didn’t have to look at the photos for very long. The fact that the wood has been sanded below the metal at the upper tang – sends me off in the opposite direction.
I see no basis to pronounce the rifle as, “factory refurbished.”
Henry Mero said
Has any one looked at lot #1 coming up on R.I.A., a .50 cal. ’86. I’m just wondering what all the bull is about “factory re-furbished” and how they determine that.
Imagine you will find it is a parts gun and not a very good job on the refurbish or did not leave Winchester as a .50 but will have a R&R in the records. So, guess you could let your imagination run wild or you could just save your money for a gun that is right!
Burt Humphrey said
Henry Mero said
Has any one looked at lot #1 coming up on R.I.A., a .50 cal. ’86. I’m just wondering what all the bull is about “factory re-furbished” and how they determine that.
Imagine you will find it is a parts gun and not a very good job on the refurbish or did not leave Winchester as a .50 but will have a R&R in the records. So, guess you could let your imagination run wild or you could just save your money for a gun that is right!
I had originally read their description to mean that the serial number of this rifle is not in the letterable range. I now see that it is. It is clear they have done a record search and the rifle letter’s in a different chambering. I think if there were an return and repair noted in the ledger, they would be all over that, parleying it to mean a factory barrel change.
It’s an interesting contrast to compare lot #1 and lot #2. Lot #1 is a parts gun – not all that well done and lot #2 is a rare, high condition, right as rain rifle. Yet their auction estimate is about the same! I couldn’t be less interested in the M1886 but find the .50 single-shot very appealing and tempting. And the kicker is M86’s have been my favorite rifle and a collecting focus. Single-shots have not been. Quite the contrast to compare the desirability of these two rifles. Hammer prices will be interesting.
Bert H. said
It is a bogus rifle. Winchester did not mark them “50 -110”. The factory marking for that cartridge was simply “50 EX.”
Before reading the comments, the first thing I noticed was the caliber stamp. Not only that but the caliber marking is slanted and not centered on the barrel flat.
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Ya’ , it’s kinda what I thought but was wonderin’ how They come off describing the gun the way they do and get away with it, being the “professionals they hold them selves out to be.
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It says right in the condition description that it’s rebarreled, nothing secret there. I doubt that it was made in .50 as late as 1918. Puts it right into the “shooter” category in my opinion. $16K is a lot of dough for a shooter, even if it is a .50. I’ll bet somebody pays that though. I’ll be at the viewing and take a look at it.
Brooksy said
It says right in the condition description that it’s rebarreled, nothing secret there. I doubt that it was made in .50 as late as 1918. Puts it right into the “shooter” category in my opinion. $16K is a lot of dough for a shooter, even if it is a .50. I’ll bet somebody pays that though. I’ll be at the viewing and take a look at it.
Winchester was still offering and manufacturing 50 EX rifles in the late production years. The research survey that Mark & I are working for the late production Model 1886 rifles (S/Ns 146000 – 160000) has thus far documented (29) of them in 50 EX, and (4) in 50-100-450. S/N 158564 is currently the highest (latest) known serial number.
The survey has uncovered many interesting tidbits of information, and it has debunked at least a few urban myths. I working on (writing) an article for the WACA Collector magazine to discuss the results of the survey, but we first want to find & document at least 10% of the 14,000 late production Model 1886 guns. Thus far, we have 1,236 (8.83%) documented, so the 10% goal is not too far away.
Bert
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