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The first time I ever heard the term was with regard to the Browning Limited edition of the 1886 SRC 45-70 and the slightly curved under-belly of the buttstock.
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Is it Legitimately a Winchester Term?
An alternative is “shad belly,” & both are very old. I can’t even think of any Winchester models displaying this feature, except the SS Schuetzen, & even there it isn’t pronounced. I’ve noticed it on early Savage 99s & some Marlins. Most extreme examples are found on other makes of Schuetzen rifles, so the style may derive from Germanic traditions.
I don’t recall ever hearing the, “perch belly” term associated with a Winchester buttstock. I associate this term with many older Savages M1899’s I have owned and seen. The, “legitimate” aspect of the term is interesting. I wonder where it has been legitimately used? I can’t recall that it was a term used in the Savage catalogs. It may have been and I’m just not remembering. My sense is the term is a lot like a Winchester, “trapper” carbine – a collector term vs. a term the company used. Does anyone know of an example where a company used the term?
In the book “The Henry Rifle” by Les Quick on page 91 he used the term”perch belly” to describe the lower profile of the butt stock on Henry serial number 14. Later it was phased out, after s/n 3200. T/R
TR said
In the book “The Henry Rifle” by Les Quick on page 91 he used the term”perch belly” to describe the lower profile of the butt stock on Henry serial number 14. Later it was phased out, after s/n 3200. T/R
It’s a good enough descriptive term. But any evidence any of the factories used it?
If you google “perch belly stock” you will get a long list of guns made that way, including some model 1912’s. The only way to answer the question would be search company advertising of the various gun companies. The term is commonly used and understood. T/R
steve004 said
My sense is the term is a lot like a Winchester, “trapper” carbine – a collector term vs. a term the company used.
That’s what it is. Someone show me a catalog or parts list in which the High or Low Wall terminology is used.
According to my research of the 73’s the term was never used in the Cody records.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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where Did the term, “Perch Belly Stock’, Come From?Tony
I take you’ve not caught many Perch?
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Here is a obvious perch belly.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
Bob,
I bet it was full of eggs!
I had me some pan fryers myself last night.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Les and Jan had an address in Oregon at one time. The last years before Less passed away they lived in their motor home and traveled the country between gun shows. Jan now lives in Grand Junction. I usually see her at the Colorado show so maybe she might show up at Colorado Springs?
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