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Thought I’d start another thread here instead of in “rifles.”

I just watched “The Ballad of Lefty Brown” on Netflix.  I thought it would be another dog but it was actually pretty good.  The dialogue was much better than the last POS I saw.  The costuming, tack, and sets were more realistic (I liked the ranch buildings, the town buildings and the saloon at the end).  It was set in 1889 Montana.

There was a Henry, lots of Colts, a Remington, a Schofield, some SXS scatter guns.  I *think* (but I’m not sure) there was an 1887 Winchester Shotgun (the wife held it on Lefty in the yard when he was escaping).  So that was cool.  There was also a Winchester rifle, standard configuration (yea!) but it was hard for me to nail it down.  By the size of it, I think it may have been a 76.  It just seemed big.  But maybe it was a 73.  I’ll defer to you guys.  Oh, I forgot: there was some big-bore long range job, like a Sharps, at the very beginning.  A bad guy used it to assassinate.

There was some good shootouts and the noise of gun fire was more realistic than some movies I’ve seen.

It took a while to grow into the lead character.  He was really hard to like because he was so incompetent, and not in a comedic way.  The fact he managed to live was hard to believe, but some folks like that are lucky.  He sold it.  The rest of the characters had some depth and the rolls were well acted.  The kid was a little weak when he first appeared (his costume) but he got better as time when on.  The cowboys were realistic in dress and attitude.  I think they may have got some real deals to act as extras.  I’m not talking the SASS fancy pants.  They looked more like the guys I rode with when I was younger.  Haphazard clothing from Goodwill, etc.

Anyway, I would recommend the movie. 

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Just finished “Big Kill” on Netflix.  Definitely a B movie.  It took a while for the characters to grow on me.  Actually, a long while.  But they settled in, especially toward the end.  The only “name” was Lou Diamond Philips (bad guy).  He’s easy for me to hate anyway.  His mustache and costume was begging for a bullet.  

The costumes were unbelievable, but you know the drill.  It had aspirations to Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and some street walking like Tombstone.

It killed a few hours.  Meh.

The Mexicans had Springfield carbines, I think.  There was a Henry and some 1851 Colts and some SAAs and SXS hammer guns.  I don’t remember any Winchesters.  What is up with that?  They used to litter western movies.  Oh well.

Some of the tack was good.  The sets were okay, but not all that true to history.  More Hollywood.

Two side kicks befriend a city slicker and accompany him to Big Kill, AZ to find his brother.  The mines are flooded and the town makes money slaughtering rustled cattle.  The brother is Mayor and has aspirations to make a good town, but he’s in with a bunch of bad hard cases.

It all works out in the end with a nice gun fight and lots of killing.

15 minutes in and I wouldn’t recommend it.  After that, like I said, it was okay.  Better than anything on broadcast TV at the time. Not as good as Ballad of Left Brown but better than that first dog I reviewed that I thankfully forgot the name of already.

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Thanks for the reviews I will these up and any others you might suggest.

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Thanks for the reviews I will these up and any others you might suggest.  

No problem.  I’m just working through Netflix westerns, one at a time, leisurely while I have some down time.

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Buffalo Boys, on Netflix.  Don’t waste your time.  Trained in the west, the go home to the east (Java) to fight for truth, justice and the eastern way.  

There are several reasons to not see this movie but all of the guns were stage props that didn’t look even close to real.  It must have been filmed in a country where they are not allowed to have real guns on the set.

I could go on, but it would be a waste time.  Dog.Cry

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Just finished Hell On Wheels on Netflix.  57 episodes.  It was not as gritty as Deadwood, and lacked the fowl language.  The characters were more developed and endearing.  Even the most evil guy, Thor Gunderson, had a backstory in Andersonville prison that gave understanding to how he got so bad.  Great sets and lighting.  Lots of Winchester 66 rifles and SRCs.  A few Henry rifles.  Some other odds and ends.  The hero carried a Griswald, I think.    I’m not a big fan of the settling of the West, and railroads in particular, but it is history.  This was fiction, but had a historical context.  I liked it.  I would recommend it.

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Keeping it Winchester 

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Keeping it Winchester 

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Interesting!  Thanks.  I looked up Winchester Pictures and only found three movies to their credit: 1. “The Thing From Another World” (Scientists and U.S. Air Force officials fend off a blood-thirsty alien organism while at a remote arctic outpost); 2. “Lighthouse” (A prison ship wrecks and the prisoners and guards get to shore, only to find a murderous psycho got there first); and 3. “The Big Sky” (1830’s Missouri Trappers from Tennessee).  I’ve never seen any of them.

I like westerns with Winchesters, so I’ll pass.  Maybe someone else has seen them?  

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What do you fellows think of “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”?

I found it very unique to say the least.

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What do you fellows think of “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”?

I found it very unique to say the least.

Sincerely,

Maverick  

I enjoyed the hell out of that movie.  Lots of good gun action.  The guy who played Scruggs was great in “Oh Brother Where Art Thou” and he nailed it as Scruggs.  The Coen Brothers crank out entertainment.  In fact, thank you for the reminder.  I’m going to watch it again.

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Interesting!  Thanks.  I looked up Winchester Pictures and only found three movies to their credit: 1. “The Thing From Another World” (Scientists and U.S. Air Force officials fend off a blood-thirsty alien organism while at a remote arctic outpost); 2. “Lighthouse” (A prison ship wrecks and the prisoners and guards get to shore, only to find a murderous psycho got there first); and 3. “The Big Sky” (1830’s Missouri Trappers from Tennessee).  I’ve never seen any of them.

I like westerns with Winchesters, so I’ll pass.  Maybe someone else has seen them?    

 Seems to me I have seen the Big Sky.Did Kirk Douglas star in that picture?

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 Seems to me I have seen the Big Sky.Did Kirk Douglas star in that picture?  

Yes, according to Wiki, that’s the one.  1952. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Sky_(film)

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Netflix, Outsiders.  It’ll kill some time.  Lots of low lighting and the gun fire in the dark looked like realistic black powder shots.  Mostly hand guns but a few 66 SRCs.

 

Netflix, Justice.  Horrible.  1870 Nevada, with 1873 SAAs.   In fact, he starts with his nickel SAAs, switches to Navy’s, then back to his SAAs.  None of it was intentional.  Just stupid.  Mostly 66 SRCs but one 1873 and maybe even a quick glance of a 94.  The story line, dialogue and acting were disappointingly bad.  It makes me realize that some people just work for a living.  Even actors, directors, producers.  After all, not everyone can be the best, and this still have to go to work and put their time in to pay the bills.

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Watched Seraphine Falls the other day.  Laughed when I saw a center fire cartridge being loaded into a Colt Dragoon in 1868. Many Colt’s were converted to center fire, but I have never seen a Dragoon or anything else converted this early. But I am not a Colt expert.

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Netflix, Outsiders.  It’ll kill some time.  Lots of low lighting and the gun fire in the dark looked like realistic black powder shots.  Mostly hand guns but a few 66 SRCs.

 

Netflix, Justice.  Horrible.  1870 Nevada, with 1873 SAAs.   In fact, he starts with his nickel SAAs, switches to Navy’s, then back to his SAAs.  None of it was intentional.  Just stupid.  Mostly 66 SRCs but one 1873 and maybe even a quick glance of a 94.  The story line, dialogue and acting were disappointingly bad.  It makes me realize that some people just work for a living.  Even actors, directors, producers.  After all, not everyone can be the best, and this still have to go to work and put their time in to pay the bills.

Your mileage may vary.  

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Yes, according to Wiki, that’s the one.  1952. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Sky_(film)  

 Yes that’s the movie.If I remember, Douglas used a muzzle loading rifle with two barrels.One over the other,that he turned so as to be able to get two shots out of it.In the end he trades the rifle,but on his way out, changes his mind and goes back for Teal Eye and plans on trading to get his rifle back.

 

 Saw it many years ago.Must of liked it, or I would not have remembered so much about it.Smile

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 Saw it many years ago.Must of liked it, or I would not have remembered so much about it.Smile  

 

True.  I’ve already forgotten most.  A movie has to be pretty good or really, really bad for me to remember it.  For the bad ones, I’ve gotten to the point that I no longer suspend disbelief; I just watch people working on screen.  I know I can’t act, so at least they are trying.  LOL!

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Pretty sure I’ve seen “Thing From Another World”. Unfortunately the most memorable thing about it was that it was a rather forgettable “B” movie. Had no idea Winchester was involved in it.

 

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Pretty sure I’ve seen “Thing From Another World”. Unfortunately the most memorable thing about it was that it was a rather forgettable “B” movie. Had no idea Winchester was involved in it.

 

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I’m sure just about all of us have but know it as the Thing. James Arnes was the Thing.  

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Not a movie but I just saw an 1876 carbine used in an late 1950’s episode of “Have Gun Will Travel.”   Paladin even racked the action and ejected several cartridges.  They appeared to be .45-70 movie blanks with the crimped front.  I’m not sure.  Perhaps the carbine was modified to use .45-70 movie blanks or special blanks were made for it.   Carbine was fired during the episode.

Back in the day, Stembridge Gun Rentals had a lot of old west firearms.  They also provided blanks for movie and TV productions.  I ordered some black powder “Five in One” blanks from them in the 1990’s.   The “Five in One” blanks could be used in .44-40 rifles and carbines, .38-40 rifles and carbines and .45 Colt revolvers.  

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I tried to watch the underfunded and poorly written World War 1 film “The Great War” on Amazon Prime. I haven’t had the stomach to get through it yet but it does have a lot of unrealistic action scenes with a Sgt. carrying and using a Winchester Model 1897 Trench gun. It is a kind of Saving Private Ryan or 1917 story line involving a bunch of white guys rescuing a trapped platoon of black soldiers? It fails rather miserably when compared to these two big budget movies in a number of ways. Nevertheless the firearms seem pretty well historical accurate with the Winchester 1897 and P17 rifles which I guess could be of Winchester manufacture as well. I have never seen a ’97 Trench gun in a movie until this one.

I won’t recommend it unless you have s great desire to see a nice 1897.

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