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Early .44 WCF third model 1877 bronze mold for sale on eBay
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December 11, 2021 - 5:41 pm
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I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder

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I have a couple of them but I’m going to put it on my watch list to see what he really gets.

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What’s it really worth?

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What ever anyone is willing to pay at the end of the auction.

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This isn’t an auction.  It’s an ad.  The starting price and the buy-it-now price is $899.00.  If you bid one time, you own it.  This style of, “auction” doesn’t bring out competition among bidders.  It’s no different than a classified ad.  The advantage is there’s no risk it will sell for less than the owner is willing to let it go for.  The disadvantage is it can’t be bid up, so there is no chance that competition among bidders will drive it up.  It would have been interesting if he had started it at a penny and let it run.

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They are worth $300 to $500 depending on condition and caliber. I paid just shy of $500 for a mint 45 colts mold. I see its a buy it now style but when he get no takers it will be reduced or someone will offer him less and it will end.

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 The brass molds of that style are rare and expensive. The ones that have assembly numbers on them are worth even more. I sold one a year ago in 45-75 and it did not go cheap. These were a bargain 25 years ago at $400. The difference then only a few people knew they were Winchester and rare. When Yearout wrote the loading tool Publication it brought out some of the rare tools. As with all loading tools caliber matters. I sold a 44 in lesser condition  two years ago and it did not bring the price of the 45-75. I don’t know if it was condition or caliber, maybe both. It will sell to someone who wants to display with a gun. T/R

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TR said
 The brass molds of that style are rare and expensive. The ones that have assembly numbers on them are worth even more. 

The one shown on eBay does have assembly numbers. It has the assembly number “82” on the bottom side of the sprue cutter. There aren’t any pictures of the front side of the mold blocks to tell if there are assembly numbers located on them as well. But I wouldn’t be surprised if there were. Bob and I have one of these molds with assembly numbers in the same locations. The seller obviously doesn’t know this information, or at least didn’t care to mention it on the auction listing. So likely doesn’t know that tidbit of info. 

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They are worth $300 to $500 depending on condition and caliber. I paid just shy of $500 for a mint 45 colts mold. I see its a buy it now style but when he get no takers it will be reduced or someone will offer him less and it will end.

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Bob, I think you right on the mark. But also agree its worth whatever it sells for and the list price is Way Way to high in my opinion. I’ve bought both the 1875 Tool with the Brass Mold for under the list price. I’ve also gotten lucky and bought relic molds for as low around $50 bucks.

To me the Buy It Now type auction is not the way to go, but who knows if someone will bite on it. I believe it is more fair to start lower and have open bids and let individual bids drive the final price.

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Not really a good comparison but modern brass multi-cavity custom moulds are generally about $300. If he re-lists at a reasonable price I may be interested if he can provide more pics. Winchester made some excellent moulds. They produce bullets of very high quality, very close to those produced by moulds made on modern CNC machines. 

Only problem is I don’t own a 44WCF firearm. 

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