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D.H. Veader and A.W. Earle, The Story of the Winchester Repeating Arms Company, 1918
Was wondering if any members happen to have a copy of this rare book? I know the McCracken Research Library at BBHC has a copy.
Was wondering if anyone else has one?
Sincerely,
Maverick
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I have looked at it, I believe it is just a manuscript that was never officially published into bound book format. There are several copies of it, I seem to recall one was marked-up with notes.
Please correct me if I am wrong as I would like to have a copy if it was published.
Regards,
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JWA said
I have looked at it, I believe it is just a manuscript that was never officially published into bound book format. There are several copies of it, I seem to recall one was marked-up with notes.Please correct me if I am wrong as I would like to have a copy if it was published.
Regards,
Wasn’t it to solve this problem that Mr. Zerox invented the photocopy machine? And no concern over copyright infringement if it was never published.
Clarence,
Yes and no.
The BBCotW will certainly photocopy it for you (for a small fee) but you cannot use the pages or images contained therein for commercial use as they consider themselves the owner of the proprietary rights to the document.
I ran into this problem in the latest book I am working on, I simply wanted to include a few cropped excerpts of 100+ year old (non-copywritten) Winchester drawings with my text to better illustrate the examples but the BBCotW wanted a royalty payment for each drawing image I used, to the extent that it was ridiculously expensive for even a few drawings to be used in the book. All other entities and image sources (including Winchester, Olin, Griffin & Howe, etc.) allowed me the use of drawings and images with proper accreditation for no fee or royalty.
As a result, I currently have over 1,100 drawings and images in my upcoming book on the Winchester Model 69 but have had to omit the 14 drawings from the BBCotW (and all credit references to the BBCotW). Interestingly, the same scanned drawings I wanted to use are posted on their website and available for free download to anyone that wants them……
Regards,
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JWA said
I ran into this problem in the latest book I am working on, I simply wanted to include a few cropped excerpts of 100+ year old (non-copywritten) Winchester drawings with my text to better illustrate the examples but the BBCotW wanted a royalty payment for each drawing image I used, to the extent that it was ridiculously expensive for even a few drawings to be used in the book.
Stupid short-sightedness typical of many, but fortunately not all, institutions–by holding out for what they hope will be the “big-killing,” as opposed to some modest, affordable, fee, nothing is what they receive.
I am of the assumption that it is a copyrighted and/or published work. As it is cited under references in various Winchester Gun Books. And if it noted correctly as published in 1918. Then I’m pretty sure it constitutes fair use as being made before 1923. But hey, that is what lawyers are for right!
Sincerely,
Maverick
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I don’t remember seeing a publishers name on the manuscript, just the date it was written (1918). Do you know who published it?
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